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    Posted: June 29 2014 at 01:19
Originally posted by rushfan4

Originally posted by progbethyname

Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Mis-read this as Neil Young's Porno.........


You kill me Tom!
I just stopped by to say that is how I mis-read it as well. Embarrassed


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2014 at 04:48
I read it as Neil Young's pony

Seems like a doomed business venture to me tbh, but I applaud him for trying to get back to a higher quality of sound.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote progbethyname Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2014 at 16:36
Originally posted by stonebeard

The whole idea has always sounded like a total bust to me. Forgetting for a moment that almost all people who use portable music players don't care about hi-fi, the thing looks like a goddamned Toblerone bar.


I agree with most of what you said. The only thing is that with mobile devices such as I phones or Androids if you pair them with the right HIFI gear, they can be a very efficient device to carry great, hi res music.
For instance I put 24/192k digital bitstream file formats on my I touch and run it through my HIFI gear
And it's absolutely lovely, but my ears still enjoy the standard red book CD lossless audio of 16/44k or PCM 24/48k
Stereo mix. Really great with a good DAC. Analog in those formats is amazing and your mobile device can retrieve 16/44 lossless audio formats that are compression free. :)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote progbethyname Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2014 at 16:43
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

I read it as Neil Young's pony

Seems like a doomed business venture to me tbh, but I applaud him for trying to get back to a higher quality of sound.

Young claims that taking file formats such as FLAC, 320kps, 24/192 and 128kps are naturally converted to be a warmer analog sound through the use of file compression to obtain these bitstreams.
I do not buy it. Not one bit. You want warmth or anything that resembles true analog sound you have to either by a high quality DAC or A warm tube amp to creat that vinyl warmth.
No digitally compressed file can ever sound like analog! It's impossible. The signals are totally different.

I'd beware.
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Originally posted by Finnforest


Anyone interested in Pono, a higher quality digital player that Neil is pushing....?http://time.com/18027/neil-youngs-high-fidelity-pono-music-player-is-still-coming-and-itll-cost-399/Will it make a splash?  More than a splash?




Yes i've been interested in since my Imod/Iqube combo is dead/sold back.
I've bought an Hifiman DAP which sound good but is very fragile.

So the Pono could be my next portable purchase. But i'm changing job these days and i've been told that my new company is about to give me an IPhone, so i'll add a portable amp and that may be a nice combo
(still using re-cabled HD25).
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Ok that's it! I am going to open a new topic called "David Bowie's Pono! I bet he sounds like an even better porno
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Post Options Post Options   Quote oliverstoned Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2014 at 01:40
You sound funny!
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Originally posted by oliverstoned

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Originally posted by oliverstoned

Originally posted by Finnforest


Anyone interested in Pono, a higher quality digital player that Neil is pushing....?http://time.com/18027/neil-youngs-high-fidelity-pono-music-player-is-still-coming-and-itll-cost-399/Will it make a splash?  More than a splash?




Yes i've been interested in since my Imod/Iqube combo is dead/sold back.
I've bought an Hifiman DAP which sound good but is very fragile.

So the Pono could be my next portable purchase. But i'm changing job these days and i've been told that my new company is about to give me an IPhone, so i'll add a portable amp and that may be a nice combo
(still using re-cabled HD25).


Hey oliverstoned!
I remember your pics of the re-cabled HD25...
      
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Doctor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2014 at 11:59
I read that as "Neil Young's Porno" and was thinking "Ewwwwwwww!" (leaves again).
I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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You can see from all the jokes here that the name itself will doom this product to failure.

Otherwise, an expensive audiophile-only gadget that even audiophiles will probably eschew.  I can't comment on 24-bit sources as I've never heard any, but doubt I could discriminate from 16-bit.  192 kHz is just outright silly (at least the article author admits as much).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2014 at 17:14
Originally posted by Padraic

You can see from all the jokes here that the name itself will doom this product to failure.Otherwise, an expensive audiophile-only gadget that even audiophiles will probably eschew.  I can't comment on 24-bit sources as I've never heard any, but doubt I could discriminate from 16-bit.  192 kHz is just outright silly (at least the article author admits as much).



I agree...too expensive to be successful IMO. And again you have to buy those hi-rez files to get the full experience.
In a proper digital setup designed to take full advantage of 24/96 or 24/192 files you can hear a good bit of difference from standard redbook 16/44, 24/96 is more than sufficient, I agree that 24/192 is overkill.
Ears are different and I am sure some can tell that difference too, but to me it is not a night/day difference. I have heard 24/192 on a digital setup that is pretty sic, I would never spend that kind of money for digital replay though.
      
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