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Tom Ozric
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Posted: April 24 2014 at 22:36 |
Sometimes I wonder if Hammill is bi-polar ....?? Some of the stuff he comes out with......
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: April 24 2014 at 22:49 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
From this list, I'd say Geddy.
The moment I listened to SM's debut (my very first SM album in1989), I loved Wyatt.
VDGG took some getting used to, but I got into it fairly quickly.
I didn't find Shulman to have a 'difficult' voice as such. Here, their brand of instrumental arrangement took the longest to wrap my head around.
Ege Bamyasi was my first Can LP in the mid-90's, and Damo suited the Kraut weirdness perfectly.
Geddy was always the shrieky, high-pitch that still irks me to this day, though I do love Rush between '74-'88, the voice being the hardest for me to dig, but his bass-chops are top-notch.
Once upon a time, we had a Rush cover band doing the local circuit, they called themselves 'Hemispheres'. The bassist/vocalist was a chick. She sounded like Geddy, spot-on..... |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: April 24 2014 at 23:10 |
Geddy. Didn't take me long, though.
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freyacat
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 01:37 |
I didn't take too long to appreciate any of the singers on that list. And I have never understood anyone who had a problem with Geddy Lee's voice, which is one of my favorites ever.
There are plenty of bad singers in prog rock. Something about all of the focus on instrumental virtuosity makes second-string proggers harbor the very worst vocalists - flat, poorly phrased, bad tone, limited dynamics.
A vocalist who I took some time getting used to was Roine Stolt of the Flower Kings. His nasal style really grated on me at first. Now, I think of his voice as an old friend, and I love to hear anything he sings. I wish he would get rid of his other vocalists, or make them sing only harmony.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 02:26 |
^ Jonas isn't too shabby tbh.
Edited by Tom Ozric - April 25 2014 at 04:22
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 03:58 |
Gentle Giant
tho even harder than any of these is the crazy warbling of vocalists from Family, and especially Pavlovs Dog!
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uduwudu
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 04:53 |
This is why I prefer instrumental music. Anyone ever hear Edgar Froese speak - that live thing T Dream did with Brian May guesting? Psycho sounding guy... My vote to Hammill as ever in a negative poll. I have tried but... Never had a problem with Derek Shulman. Saw Wyatt once with DG thought he did ok on their "unledded" version of Comfortably Numb. Now Van Morrison on Waters' Berlin Wall show of Comfortably Numb I thought was particularly foul. Like he had no idea what tune he was supposed to be singing. I too, am surprised Surkamp wasn't listed. He makes Hammill sound as acceptable as the greatest specialist singers to m (Plant, Gillan spring to mind). Collins is a very good singer as well. Ian Anderson at his finest (a while back now) is top. I do like to find the positives. As Feyacat said - "There are plenty of bad singers in prog rock. Something about all
of the focus on instrumental virtuosity makes second-string proggers
harbor the very worst vocalists - flat, poorly phrased, bad tone,
limited dynamics." Yep, many sing through their noses! There are what I like to call "character" vocalists - Waters and Gabriel spring to mind. Very good on expressing the idea not so hot as a versatile singer though I think PG improved over the years. Waters did as well but it will always be DG who can best express Waters' lyrics. For me, Damo Suzuki never really had much of an impact on Can as vocalist. The voice was there but never really intruded, was really an instrument. I really good singer is Santana's Greg Walker. Summer Lady off Marathon is a great example of something hard to do (from my perception) that he makes sound so easy, and sound good.
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dr prog
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 07:02 |
Wanorak wrote:
I just can't get into Damo Suzuki. | That's because he can't sing
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 07:35 |
When I heard Hammill for the first time (it was of Fripp's solo debut 'Exposure'), he kinda shocked me, so I tried to avoid other projects with his participation. But when I finally heard VdGG, I shortly fell in love with his voice and his talent. Now I believe that Hammill's one of the finest and most original singers of all time.
Derek Shulman's a nice singer.
Damo Suzuki and Robert Wyattare both are quite strange, but I can't say that it's hard to get into their voice.
Geddy Lee is not a good singer neither an original one, but I never have had any problems with his voice.
So no vote. For me the hardest vocalist to get was probably Cedric Bixler-Zavala, but 'twas also aggravated with the overall chaos of The Mars Volta music. Anyway, after a few months I began to understand the music and after another few months I started to percieve his vocals as something usual (actually after At the Drive-In I agreed that his screams in The Mars Volta are quite human in comparison with the hardcore punk madness of his early stuff).
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Barbu
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 11:54 |
Geddy
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 12:10 |
dr prog wrote:
Wanorak wrote:
I just can't get into Damo Suzuki. | That's because he can't sing | He doesn't need to, because he's doing something different with his voice. It becomes a rhythm.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: April 25 2014 at 13:48 |
dr prog wrote:
Wanorak wrote:
I just can't get into Damo Suzuki. |
That's because he can't sing |
he have no time for western lesson
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King Manuel
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Posted: April 26 2014 at 00:43 |
None ;-)! Two I loved at first listen (Geddy and Peter), for the others I never got into them at all. So no vote.
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Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: April 26 2014 at 00:55 |
dr prog wrote:
Wanorak wrote:
I just can't get into Damo Suzuki. |
That's because he can't sing |
TURTLE HAVE A SHORT REGS, NOT FOR THE WALKING
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proggman
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Posted: April 26 2014 at 08:52 |
Damo Suzuki
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uduwudu
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Posted: April 27 2014 at 03:44 |
Of course this poll question supposes that listeners manged too "get into" the most "difficult" singer in question... have we succeeded?
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Kentucky_Hawkwindage
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Posted: April 27 2014 at 06:58 |
GL for me,in fact i never have been able to get into Rush period.I don't feel i'm alone though.
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dr wu23
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Posted: April 27 2014 at 14:08 |
dr prog wrote:
Wanorak wrote:
I just can't get into Damo Suzuki. |
That's because he can't sing |
At least half the singers in the whole rock genre can't sing .
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Rednight
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Posted: May 07 2014 at 07:35 |
He's not on the list, but it was (for periodic reasons) Peter Gabriel. Me lads and I would see television interviews of him pre-Lamb' and just chuckle. We all thought he was the odd oddball who was primping for the cameras, and his somewhat demure, monotone voice at the time came off as alien. Of course, none of us had heard a lick of his music, so our heads were firmly implanted in our nether regions. For our little click, it took one listen to A Trick of the Tail to look into the Genesis phenomonem (surely misspelled)a few years later, and lo and behold, we discovered there was actually something there on previous albums (to say the least). Sad to say I missed Mr. Gabriel on the Lamb' tour, but I was there when he visited the Roxy in L.A. for the second time in '78. Sorry, Pete. Thank you all for this indulgence. The singer I really can't get into is that guy from Area.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 07 2014 at 07:42 |
^Nooooo say it ain't so Demetrio Stratos is my fave! I'll admit he might be a bit hard to take, if one isn't too fond of Arabian yodeling.
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