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    Posted: April 25 2014 at 11:14
Hello guys, my nickname is Razors Edge (Razors, not Razor's!) and I am an Italian progressive rock "academic". Cool

Being a perfectionist, i'll report the mistakes i'll find in the PA discographies. Moreover, i'd like share on and off with you all some reflections about the prog "matter". 

Here are my favourite artists (variations are possible) for each PA categories (calling "genres" is uncorrect, in my opinion; they are not definable like that):

Canterbury Scene (a prog music movement, not a genre): Soft Machine
Crossover Prog (a facticious prog category): Mike Oldfield
Eclectic Prog (a facticious prog category): The Tangent
Experimental/Post Metal (a prog music movement, not a genre): Tool
Heavy Prog (a facticious prog category): The Mars Volta
Indo-Prog/Raga Rock (a partially prog music movement, not a genre): Osjan
Jazz Rock/Fusion (both a prog genre and a prog music movement): Miles Davis
Krautrock (a prog music movement, not a genre): Popol Vuh
Neo-Prog (a prog music movement, not a genre): Marillion
Post-Rock/Math Rock (a prog music movement, not a genre): Sigur Rós
Prog Folk (a facticious  prog category; here the subject is complicated...): Jethro Tull
Progressive Electronic (a facticious prog category):  Tangerine Dream
Progressive Metal (both a prog genre and a prog music movement): Dream Theater
Psychedelic/Space Rock (a prog music movement, not a genre): Pink Floyd
RIO/Avant-Prog  (a prog music movement, not a genre): Frank Zappa
Rock Progressivo Italiano (a facticious prog category): Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Symphonic Prog (both a prog genre and a prog music movement): Transatlantic
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal (a prog music movement, not a genre): Opeth
Zeuhl (a prog music movement, not a genre): Magma

Prog Related (a facticious partially prog category) : Led Zeppelin
Proto-Prog (a facticious partially prog category) : Deep Purple

Nota Bene: The comments to every categories are not a criticism to Prog Archives, I respect the policy of the site. They are only my thoughts about them.  Wink

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Anything else?   Maybe room service and a foot rub?
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You seem like prog fan.

Welcome.

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Perfectionists are not usually uncorrect but I guess it's academic now?
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Shocked

Anything but funny. And not very polite.

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Originally posted by Razors Edge Razors Edge wrote:

Hello guys, my nickname is Razors Edge (Razors, not Razor's!) and I am an Italian progressive rock "academic". Cool

Being a perfectionist, i'll report the mistakes i'll find in the PA discographies. Moreover, i'd like share on and off with you all some reflections about the prog "matter". 

Here are my favourite artists (variations are possible) for each PA categories (calling "genres" is uncorrect, in my opinion; they are not definable like that):

Canterbury Scene (a prog music movement, not a genre): Soft Machine
Crossover Prog (a facticious prog category): Mike Oldfield
Eclectic Prog (a facticious prog category): The Tangent
Experimental/Post Metal (a prog music movement, not a genre): Tool
Heavy Prog (a facticious prog category): The Mars Volta
Indo-Prog/Raga Rock (a partially prog music movement, not a genre): Osjan
Jazz Rock/Fusion (both a prog genre and a prog music movement): Miles Davis
Krautrock (a prog music movement, not a genre): Popol Vuh
Neo-Prog (a prog music movement, not a genre): Marillion
Post-Rock/Math Rock (a prog music movement, not a genre): Sigur Rós
Prog Folk (a facticious  prog category; here the subject is complicated...): Jethro Tull
Progressive Electronic (a facticious prog category):  Tangerine Dream
Progressive Metal (both a prog genre and a prog music movement): Dream Theater
Psychedelic/Space Rock (a prog music movement, not a genre): Pink Floyd
RIO/Avant-Prog  (a prog music movement, not a genre): Frank Zappa
Rock Progressivo Italiano (a facticious prog category): Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Symphonic Prog (both a prog genre and a prog music movement): Transatlantic
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal (a prog music movement, not a genre): Opeth
Zeuhl (a prog music movement, not a genre): Magma

Prog Related (a facticious partially prog category) : Led Zeppelin
Proto-Prog (a facticious partially prog category) : Deep Purple

Nota Bene: The comments to every categories are not a criticism to Prog Archives, I respect the policy of the site. They are only my thoughts about them.  Wink

Ciao a tutti.

How do. Welcome to the site.

It is spelt factitious, as in artificial and contrived. Whilst I happen to agree with you, by and large, this is a subject we have debated endlessly here, and I can state that this is not a subject which will win you any popularity contests here.

Take some advice from one who knows!Wink


Edited by lazland - April 26 2014 at 08:24


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How do. Welcome to the site.

It is spelt factitious, as in artificial and contrived. Whilst I happen to agree with you, by and large, this is a subject we have debated endlessly here, and I can state that this is not a subject which will win you any popularity contests here.

Take some advice from one who knows!Wink
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Thanks for the advice, you are very gentle. However, I don't search popularity. In the beginning, i didn't wanted to create this post.
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Welcome, and thanks for the interesting notes.

In my mind, all the above are movements rather than sub-genres but this is of little interest to the wider prog community.

And yes, some of them are "factitious" as you call them or rather "conventions" to attempt and "categorise" the movements, so that if person X likes the style of band Y, then maybe he can find other bands under the same movement. Of course, none of the "sub-genres" are in isolation, but we are trying for the best fit.

And of course, every help in spotting errors and omissions is more than welcome Approve


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I thought he meant to say "fictitious"   -

Originally posted by Razors Edge Razors Edge wrote:

ShockedAnything but funny. And not very polite.

You can do better than this, Special Collaborator! Retry...

It wasn't meant to be polite, why would I be polite to someone whose first post is presumptuous and arrogant?  -
C'mon, man, be real.   The subgenres are here to help non-fans as much as anyone, so get off your high-horse, take a step back, and try to appreciate such a well-run and informative site instead of trying to enlighten us with your wisdom.






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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I thought he meant to say "fictitious"   -

Originally posted by Razors Edge Razors Edge wrote:

ShockedAnything but funny. And not very polite.

You can do better than this, Special Collaborator! Retry...

It wasn't meant to be polite, why would I be polite to someone whose first post is presumptuous and arrogant?  -
C'mon, man, be real.   The subgenres are here to help non-fans as much as anyone, so get off your high-horse, take a step back, and try to appreciate such a well-run and informative site instead of trying to enlighten us with your wisdom.





Presumptuous and arrogant?
Maybe you are not able to read!

I wrote: "Nota Bene: The comments to every categories are not a criticism to Prog Archives, I respect the policy of the site. They are only my thoughts about them. "

Look yourself in a mirror before you speak, and respect the newbies.
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Respect is earned.
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