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Crime Of The Century OR The Raven That Refused...

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Poll Question: Which is better?
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    Posted: May 07 2014 at 12:56
These 2 are constantly switching as the top "crossover prog" album, so I thought I'd see what you guys think. Currently, both have just short of 1000 ratings and are at 4.34 and 4.33. Both are incredible pieces of songwriting, and definitely progressive, but personally I'd go for Supertramp - just love every second, and each song keeps the standard on there so high. 

Anyway, thanks for any feedback Big smile





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Post Options Post Options   Quote HolyMoly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2014 at 13:04
Not really a fair comparison from my own point of view.  I've been an avid admirer of that Supertramp album for most of my long life, while the Wilson album has only been a part of my life for a year or so.  Naturally, the Tramp has had more time to sink in.  But the Wilson is an excellent work whose stature will hopefully not diminish with time.
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Very hard. Supertramp has a bit more 'soul' so I voted for that but both are easily 5 star masterpieces in my book.
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Supertramp +1
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2014 at 14:44
Easily The Raven.
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The one that most incites lust, greed and glory.
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Supertramp +1
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Crime by a country mile!! IMO it is a perfecrt album that sounds fresh and crystalline to this day. I'm one of the few that doesn't think Raven is a masterpiece, oh well.
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That face on wislon album is probably behind the bars in Crime covrr :o
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Originally posted by HemispheresOfXanadu

The one that most incites lust, greed and glory.

This FTW.

Tramp for me as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2014 at 16:30
Steven Wilson by a margin.
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The Raven flies high over Supertramp, and that's not a crime. Although I enjoy Supertramp, they're too radio-friendly and pop-oriented to rank on the same level as Steven Wilson, one of the true musical visionariesof this century.
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I do think Supertramp was more radio friendly and pop oriented even before Genesis went down that path---
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Supertramp easily in an unfair poll. The Raven is an astonishing prog epic too though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CryoftheCarrots Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2014 at 23:46
I grew up with Crime ot the Century as a teenager in the 70's. (An album that I enjoy a lot.)
The Raven by a very large margin.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2014 at 00:02
Raven...........
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Raven by millions...
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love both but have to go with Supertramp
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Originally posted by progmatic

The Raven flies high over Supertramp, and that's not a crime. Although I enjoy Supertramp, they're too radio-friendly and pop-oriented to rank on the same level as Steven Wilson, one of the true musical visionariesof this century.

 
Sometimes a radio-friendly and pop-oriented album ranks higher than many "virtuousism-oriented" prog albums i've happened to know in the PA Forum.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote genbanks Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2014 at 14:17
A strange comparison...but the poll is there, so...I prefer Crime of the century, beyond The Raven is really good too. But Supertramp has some stunning prog tracks there, prog and catchy sometimes. School, Rudy, Bloody well right, Crime of the century, etc.
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