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HemispheresOfXanadu
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Posted: June 04 2014 at 07:44 |
There's definitely some growling/grunting I don't like (like both Cannibal Corpse vocalists, sorta iffy on The Faceless's vocalist, many vocalists in 'core' subgenres that use growls) but if they've got a unique tone or technique, I like it very much. Possibly my favourite growling vocalist ever, Simon Gerard of Beyond Creation, can do a lot more than just sound evil--he can hold notes for a dastardly long time (check out the end of The Deported!), can also shriek very well (sounds like they have two vocalists when he switches between growls and shrieks) and has the ability to vibrate notes so that it sounds like he's growl-purring or something (I forget which song that's on, though).
Yes to growls, no to grunts.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 04 2014 at 08:16 |
^ growl purring - as if anyone needed reminding they're on Prog Archives
I don't own a lot of music that employs so-called growling but as far as wanting to sound evil, inhuman or otherworldly is concerned, wouldn't effectively chosen lyrics go a long way towards conveying that intention? Even I think you are a shimmering vision of loveliness, here have a biscuit Amanda when growled is gonna sound diabolical and would completely contradict the desired message. I'm haunted by images of insurance underwriters and bank clerks pretending to be Satanic fiends from tatty bedsits when I hear some growling (but that's just me)
Edited by ExittheLemming - June 06 2014 at 23:52 |
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The T
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Posted: June 04 2014 at 08:21 |
Nowadays, when I need me some hard rock, it's usually the death or black type, and of course it involves growling or shrieking.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 04 2014 at 22:10 |
If I'm being honest I always took growling ~ and I mean the early stuff like Exodus' first record which these days probably sounds like whispering ~ to be a solution for bands who couldn't find what many can't: a good singer. Growling eventually became a stylistic option, but back then it sounded like a desperate need to vocalize even if you weren't Ronnie James.
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smartpatrol
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Posted: June 04 2014 at 22:53 |
In general I guess I lean more toward dislike more than like, but I don't mind a lot of it; as long as the rest of the music is good I can dig it (maudlin of the Well for example).
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Altairius
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Posted: June 07 2014 at 23:27 |
Terrible
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Xonty
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Posted: June 10 2014 at 13:27 |
Both.
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mithrandir
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Posted: June 10 2014 at 22:53 |
its the voice of my generation...
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King Crimson776
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 01:34 |
^ That's pretty tragic
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 03:08 |
Other: I don't get it.
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 14:53 |
Growling is fine for animals , and sometimes during sex.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 17:06 |
In defense of a good growl, if it is used well, it is used in full acknowledgement of its connotations. In Bath and Leaving Your Body Map, for instance, maudlin of the Well uses growling to evoke the dangerous aspects of a surreal dreamscape. It's a little scary and impersonal, but also thrilling. In the right context, this can be a magic combination of elements.
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Luna
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 17:13 |
I like it
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SteveG
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 17:24 |
If someone growled at me in a conversation they would get slapped down. I don' t feel that there is a place for growling outside of a dog kennel. But that's just me. I'm silly like that.
Edited by SteveG - June 11 2014 at 17:58 |
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Polymorphia
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 17:34 |
If someone belted at me in conversation they'd get slapped down.
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Luna
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 17:37 |
If someone played bass at me in conversation I probably wouldn't do anything
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Chris S
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 17:45 |
Not for me......nope. Did like some Slipknot way way back though
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Polymorphia
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Posted: June 11 2014 at 17:48 |
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