| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
Xonty 
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 23 2013
Location: Cornwall
Status: Offline
Points: 1759
|
 Topic: 3 Punk Albums
Posted: June 09 2014 at 14:31 |
I know this completely isn't prog rock but I want to see what your favourite classic punk debut is from people with a prog perspective. For me, it's actually The Damned. Been looking for that album for ages but still can't find it. Never really got into the Clash (although "London Calling" is a great single) and Sex Pistols is a bit too serious and stifled IMO. Still love it though 
Thanks for any feedback  |
 |
HolyMoly
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: April 01 2009
Location: Atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 26133
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 14:39 |
|
FYI, you can create polls in the "General Music Discussion" forum, which is where this belongs.
Those are usually cited as the first three major British punk releases. I think the Sex Pistols is the best of the three by far. I adore the Damned but don't think they really got good until their third album. I feel similarly about The Clash - they both weren't very good punk bands but they were great eclectic rock bands once they matured a bit. The Sex Pistols, on the other hand, made a real sizzler with their first and only album (not counting Great R&R Swindle).
Edited by HolyMoly - June 09 2014 at 14:40
|
|
My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.
-Kehlog Albran
|
|
richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 26156
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 15:15 |
|
I don't own any of those albums but I gave a vote to The Damned as they covered Alone Again Or on a later album. A punk band with obviously good taste. Also Rat Scabies is a total Phil Collins 'fanboy' (absolutely true I'm not making this up)
|
|
hellogoodbye
Forum Senior Member
VIP member
Joined: August 29 2011
Location: Troy
Status: Offline
Points: 7251
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 15:20 |
Wire : Pink Flag http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPIDtWqS8qc The Buzzcoks : Spiral Scratch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJ71w_ez6Y
|
|
Kirillov
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 03 2011
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 700
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 15:54 |
|
The Damned
|
|
Dean
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 16:01 |
|
They're all crap.
|
|
What?
|
|
lazland
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 28 2008
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 13249
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 16:03 |
 Dean wrote:
They're all crap. |
Cobblers. They're not that good.
|
|
Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org
|
|
someone_else
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: May 02 2008
Location: Going Bananas
Status: Offline
Points: 23996
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 16:11 |
I don't have very much liking for the genre at all, but I vote for Bollocks, which is for punk of similar status as ItChycoCK is for progressive rock  . Btw, this is not a prog poll  .
Edited by someone_else - June 09 2014 at 16:12
|
|
|
|
chopper
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 19943
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 16:34 |
I like The Damned. That's probably the first time I've heard the Pistols referred to as "too serious".
|
|
Man With Hat
Collaborator
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166178
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 17:26 |
HolyMoly wrote:
FYI, you can create polls in the "General Music Discussion" forum, which is where this belongs.
|
Yep.
|
|
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
|
|
CryoftheCarrots
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 29 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 674
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 17:39 |
Bollocks!
I bought that album same year I bought Genesis/Yes/King Crimson etc.etc.
The other 2 are great as well. Ah memories of the late 70's going to punk clubs.
|
|
"There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about"
MJK
|
|
Progosopher
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 12 2009
Location: Coolwood
Status: Offline
Points: 6393
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 18:09 |
|
The Sex Pistols, one of the few punk bands worth listening to.
|
|
The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
|
|
octopus-4
Special Collaborator
RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams
Joined: October 31 2006
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 13358
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 23:26 |
|
I've always loved the Clash. I have no shame.
|
|
Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com
|
|
Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
|
Posted: June 09 2014 at 23:45 |
|
Wrong fourm..
Don't like any of those albums.
|
|
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
|
|
uduwudu
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 17 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 2601
|
Posted: June 10 2014 at 05:32 |
|
First Clash album sent me to sleep I was so bored. Bollocks was a laugh here and there but irritating... do I have to hear any more of this torture...
Why did these guys think that hearing badly played 2 chord thrashes would make them endearing. They sold their records at least as expensive as those more prominently featured on this site.
The hate remains the same... I remember once a few years ago my Led Zeppelin T shirt exchanging nasty glances with a Sex Pistols apparel substitute walking on by...
It's just a punk thing, even that negative crap could not stifle creativity as the new Wave had some music happening...
|
|
dedokras
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 04 2006
Location: Bulgaria
Status: Offline
Points: 635
|
Posted: June 10 2014 at 06:02 |
|
I consider the Sex Pistols debut to be one of the best and most important rock albums ever, all songs are pretty much ageless.
|
|
http://mlyk.bandcamp.com/
|
|
Rick Robson
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 03 2013
Location: Rio de Janeiro
Status: Offline
Points: 1607
|
Posted: June 10 2014 at 08:44 |
|
I don't own anything of this genre, but am guessing what was the importance of Ramones, as once I listened to a version they made from the music "What a wonderful world" by Louis Armstrong and I think maybe they've got a good taste.
|
 "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB
|
|
octopus-4
Special Collaborator
RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams
Joined: October 31 2006
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 13358
|
Posted: June 10 2014 at 08:56 |
The punk "movement" was invented by the majors or by the press or by both, I don't know exactly. Even if I was around it was not so clear to me. As it happens with any stereotyped genre, the punk artists should be "simple", "short", "offending" and most of all "unable to play".
This resulted in a bunch of good musicians trying to appear unskilled. The Clash were one. The Ramones were from the other side of the Ocean, where the influence of Velvet Underground was still strong. They and Patti Smith were in some ways sons of Lou Reed and John Cale and this made the difference with the British punk bands.
I never liked Sex Pistols too much, but I really loved and still love listening to the Clash and to Patti Smith. London Calling and Horses are two great albums from the period of classic prog decline.
|
|
Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com
|
|
Dean
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 37575
|
Posted: June 10 2014 at 09:03 |
|
^ I think not. The history of Punk is well documented so there is no need to guess and speculate an origin.
|
|
What?
|
|
ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
Status: Offline
Points: 11415
|
Posted: June 10 2014 at 09:12 |
|
Like myself, all three have not aged particularly gracefully. The import of the 1st Clash album is religiously and dogmatically overstated, the Pistols were by definition a singles band and the Damned were the proto Goth babysitters for the sort of pallid bed-wetters that even cosmetic morbidity would fail to enhance aesthetically or sonically. I live in Australia and there is a thriving Goth scene here, but why would such a phenomenon exist in a sub tropical climate (Are there Phillipino, Pacific Islander and Singaporean Goths sweltering under Tim Burton designed ceiling fans?)
All said, Lydon (alone) matured into PIL while the Clash grew into the masterpiece that is London Calling. The Damned did subsequently record some decent stuff 'Smash It Up' and "Curtain Call' spring to mind but thereafter, the lure of the corpse paint proved too much and Phantasmagoria must even bring a blush to the cheeks of bona fide palefaces
Edited by ExittheLemming - June 10 2014 at 09:39
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
3 Punk Albums
