Lyrics at the end of "To Be Over" by Yes |
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cstack3
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Topic: Lyrics at the end of "To Be Over" by Yes Posted: August 08 2014 at 23:48 |
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As the OP, I want to thank all of you for your very interesting and entertaining answers!
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Dean
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Posted: August 07 2014 at 12:12 | |||
It's nonsensical vocables but the similarity to the French language as spoken by a lad from Lancashire could be more than just a coincidence.
For example does not "New Som Du Lay" strike you as being almost too similar to "Nous Somme Du Soleil" ? ... ... Perhaps he intended to put a reference to 'Ritual' into the end of the song but the extra syllable didn't scan so he dropped it - he then vocalised randomly around that phrase. Unfortunate then that "Nous somme du lait" could translate as "we are the milk". Then there is "tay tu santeh" ... that phonetically sounds like "tais tu sante" which would translate as 'silent you health'. (No one ever said Anderson was fluent in French or had good grammar) |
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PrognosticMind
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Posted: August 07 2014 at 11:13 | |||
Very strong track off of arguably my personal favorite Yes record. I've never thought too much about those lyrical lines, as I simply love just about everything Jon Anderson has done with the band. What a record Relayer is!
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twosteves
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Posted: August 07 2014 at 10:44 | |||
Agree it is exquisite---and u r right about the avatar dude--he is a criminal that woman and popular culture fell in love with because of his "good looks".
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: August 07 2014 at 10:38 | |||
CaffeineFace what’s up with your avatar? Look into that dudes eyes. That’s one cruel callous individual. Of course my perception could be off but the eyes don’t lie.
To Be Over is exquisite… |
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coffeeintheface
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 21:32 | |||
One of my all-time favorite Yes tracks
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Genital Giant
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 20:00 | |||
Best and most "Yes" song off that album, imo.
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snowsnow
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Posted: June 22 2014 at 11:56 | |||
Great song (lovely ending) from a simply brilliant album!
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chopper
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 08:34 | |||
Just a joke inspired by the previous comment and the various bollocks "theories" on the Internet about the meaning of "Stairway To Heaven" when you play it backwards. |
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refugee
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 08:09 | |||
There’s some French in there. The sun, of course, and the last word is suspiciously resemblant to the French word for Cheers!
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Michael678
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 07:40 | |||
i did not know about this until today and yet i am a HUGE yes fan. i thought it was some la la kind of singing, but i guess not. and what's up with this playing backwards playing a message that supports devil worship?! wtf that is not how you play music btw, its f**ked up. i mean, god. and i love this song myself; its one of my favorites!
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 07:04 | |||
I know, and if you play "Gates Of Delirium" backwards, you are sober again. It works better than coffee after some heavy drinking.
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chopper
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 06:30 | |||
If you play "To Be Over" backwards, it actually is a message advocating devil worship.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 04:02 | |||
If Jon Anderson uses words for the sounds, and not for the actual meaning (and I got the impression that he does), I suppose there aren't any hidden messages in any made up language
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 00:11 | |||
Kind of reminds me of the ceta ceia thing at the end of "don't kill the whale."
Anyway, "to be over" is great. It's one of my favorite YES songs. It's about not giving up in tough times. |
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Kazza3
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 23:41 | |||
Yeah, that's basically the definitive answer, and if you listen to the section it's exactly right. And I think vocables is the right word.
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twosteves
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 20:49 | |||
that makes sense as he sorta did that in The Ancient---or maybe he was just making up words again---
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cstack3
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 10:48 | |||
Don't doubt your part, be ready to be loved.... |
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Manuel
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 09:04 | |||
It looks like a Mayan or Aztec writing, similar to some I've seen in my studies of those cultures, but have no clue to their meaning.
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Progosopher
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 23:22 | |||
I have adopted the term 'vocable' for such passages. Vocals without real words, sung for their phonetic sound rather than their meaning, of which they have none. It translates into a great ending to a great song here.
Funeral services? As in the celebration of a life rather than the mourning of a death? Makes sense to me. |
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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