Lyrics at the end of "To Be Over" by Yes |
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cstack3
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Topic: Lyrics at the end of "To Be Over" by Yes Posted: June 15 2014 at 21:06 |
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There is an interesting conversation on a Facebook page about the last bits of singing by Anderson & company as the amazing song "To Be Over" winds down on "Relayer."
The words are very indistinct, and are likely Anderson's noodling around in another language, or ancient script. This site has this interpretation: After all your soul will still surrender After all don't doubt your part Be ready to be loved New som du lay Sah du rah Sah du lay Tu sah rah Du sah dulay Sah du rah Tey tu santeh ====== I consider our contributors to be among the best-informed on these matters, period! Does anyone have any insight into what Anderson is singing, what the inspiration was etc.? It is a remarkably beautiful song and one of the most moving I've heard from Yes. It always comes to me at funeral services. Cheers, Charles
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 21:36 | |||
I do find this song very beautiful. However, I feel it's a bit too long. I have come to like better the instrumental shorter versions Howe has recorded of it, for they don't go overlong, and I kind of like the main melody better on acoustic guitar. I wish they had included an acoustic version of this song on their acoustic sets of the 2000's.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 22:20 | |||
^ That does not answer Chuck's question.
I think it sounds more like gibberish. Maybe the guys thought the sounds of the gibberish fit in nicely with the music? Maybe that was their writing approach at the time (as the case is with Eno and the Bee Gees) ? Maybe playing around with the line "Nous sommes du soleil" (at least I see it as a hint from the first line of the gibberish you've written) ? Hope we can get a better answer. Update: Ah! Here's what I've found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsjk7A8snOM Anyone know what is being sung at the end of the song that is not part of the official lyrics? Reply · I did a little bit of research. Here is a quote directly from Jon Anderson: "It isn't words. It was never meant to be any kind of mysterious thing. I did want a sound, like a lot of people doing a little song, but I didn't want any words. It goes "New som du lay sah du rah sah du lay tu sah rah, du sah du lay, sah du rah, tey tu santeh." It can be interpreted any way you want." Show less Reply · 2 Edited by Dayvenkirq - June 15 2014 at 22:35 |
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twosteves
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 22:52 | |||
I always thought this was another one of Jon's sound poems ---which can mean whatever you want--it certainly is a beautiful end to an amazing album---bring Jon and Patrick back!
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Progosopher
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 23:22 | |||
I have adopted the term 'vocable' for such passages. Vocals without real words, sung for their phonetic sound rather than their meaning, of which they have none. It translates into a great ending to a great song here.
Funeral services? As in the celebration of a life rather than the mourning of a death? Makes sense to me. |
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Manuel
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 09:04 | |||
It looks like a Mayan or Aztec writing, similar to some I've seen in my studies of those cultures, but have no clue to their meaning.
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cstack3
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 10:48 | |||
Don't doubt your part, be ready to be loved.... |
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twosteves
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 20:49 | |||
that makes sense as he sorta did that in The Ancient---or maybe he was just making up words again---
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Kazza3
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Posted: June 16 2014 at 23:41 | |||
Yeah, that's basically the definitive answer, and if you listen to the section it's exactly right. And I think vocables is the right word.
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 00:11 | |||
Kind of reminds me of the ceta ceia thing at the end of "don't kill the whale."
Anyway, "to be over" is great. It's one of my favorite YES songs. It's about not giving up in tough times. |
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 04:02 | |||
If Jon Anderson uses words for the sounds, and not for the actual meaning (and I got the impression that he does), I suppose there aren't any hidden messages in any made up language
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chopper
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 06:30 | |||
If you play "To Be Over" backwards, it actually is a message advocating devil worship.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 07:04 | |||
I know, and if you play "Gates Of Delirium" backwards, you are sober again. It works better than coffee after some heavy drinking.
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Michael678
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 07:40 | |||
i did not know about this until today and yet i am a HUGE yes fan. i thought it was some la la kind of singing, but i guess not. and what's up with this playing backwards playing a message that supports devil worship?! wtf that is not how you play music btw, its f**ked up. i mean, god. and i love this song myself; its one of my favorites!
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refugee
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 08:09 | |||
There’s some French in there. The sun, of course, and the last word is suspiciously resemblant to the French word for Cheers!
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chopper
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Posted: June 17 2014 at 08:34 | |||
Just a joke inspired by the previous comment and the various bollocks "theories" on the Internet about the meaning of "Stairway To Heaven" when you play it backwards. |
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snowsnow
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Posted: June 22 2014 at 11:56 | |||
Great song (lovely ending) from a simply brilliant album!
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Genital Giant
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 20:00 | |||
Best and most "Yes" song off that album, imo.
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coffeeintheface
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Posted: August 06 2014 at 21:32 | |||
One of my all-time favorite Yes tracks
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: August 07 2014 at 10:38 | |||
CaffeineFace what’s up with your avatar? Look into that dudes eyes. That’s one cruel callous individual. Of course my perception could be off but the eyes don’t lie.
To Be Over is exquisite… |
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