Dark Side of the Moon

zravkapt wrote: Ummagumma syncs up perfectly with Backdoor Sluts #47

Dayvenkirq wrote: ^ Well, that kind of pride doesn't make for a good presence in lyrics, so, ... there.

  Really....?

Dayvenkirq wrote: dr wu23 wrote: Dayvenkirq wrote: ^ Well, that kind of pride doesn't make for a good presence in lyrics, so, ... there.   Really....?   ... and http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=99047&PID=5021118#5021118 ... "That's all about words and language", witty remarks, "clever remarks and intellectualization" ... all vague notions. How do you incorporate any of it in a song, do you know? Here, on this forum, people more or less improvise with speech (err ... writing). But songwriting is truly something special and needs a lot of attention. There are high standards and rules of thumb. Our everyday speech/writing has a different set of those. And songwriting is clearly not just about words and language. The author of the song has to breath life into the words and sweeten the whole thing with ... music! Have you noted the style in which Iain writes his posts here? Sounds like he prepares himself for a Peter Hammill's "The Sleepwalkers" -style poetry slam.  Go ahead and try to put anything Iain says in a song. Don't just put two vague notions like "wit" and "song" together and think that it's going to turn out alright. It's easy to say something brainy; it's much harder to write a valuable song. I see that a lot of us have high standards when listening to/reading someone's words.

rogerthat wrote: Not to get into profiling, but most of the 'literary' people I've met were either not interested in music or listened to it for the music music, not the lyrics.  It was typically the people who did not have the patience to read big, fat books who were however very particular about the selection of words in the verse.  So, maybe literary people shut out the words when they listen to music.  As I said in the other word, if I wanted something clever, I would read it in a book.  I seek a more visceral and less 'intellectual' experience from music.

I don't find it strange either. In a perfect world that statement alone should be enough but often the urge to clarify that means I must continue. I don't read the verses in birthday cards but enjoy getting them once a year. I think that analogy is close enough to convey the message and meaning yet still there is room for misunderstanding so I shall elucidate further. Erudite people are not necessarily polymaths and just because people like one literary form it does not follow that they would like all literary forms. Just because you enjoy prose it does not mean that you should also enjoy poetry and if you do take pleasure in poetry there is no reason to assume that you would like lyrical poetry or blank verse. Also if you do care about good lyrical poetry it doesn't necessarily mean that you are bothered by song lyrics. And not caring about them does not mean that you don't care for them.

Edited by Dean - July 24 2014 at 22:10

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Why did the short hair cross the road? Because someone told him to.
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