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    Posted: August 28 2014 at 01:46
Real shame there is no photos on tour of my old legendary Swiss progressive rock band I was in called Flame Dream.Also,no photos of Framus guitars.
Flame Dream's keyboardist,songwriter great player Roland "Roli" Ruckstuhl
played for the Roland Company,used two Mellotrons,endorsed by Sequential Circuits,with SCI's Prophet-5 & 10,ARP,Oberheim;using Yamaha's CP80,and Patrick Moraz's Model 290 Imperial Bösendorfer piano.
We had it all and more from A to Z .





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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2014 at 14:15
^ Hi Dale, well of course it's not possible to list every instrument ever used by Prog musicians, I concentrated on instruments which were widely used in the classic period or which have been for some reason particularly special. Framus guitars were not prominent in classic Prog as far as I know, Devin Townsend uses them but he belongs to the modern era and Slade are not included in PA meaning most people consider them as Glam and not as Prog (including myself).
At any rate it made me think that perhaps Warwick (who owns the Framus brand now) would deserve a mention, they belong already to the 80's but have been the choice of important Prog bassists such as Pete Trewavas.



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Hi,greetings Gerinski,

Thanks for the reply,but I am not sure you're aware the impact the wonderful clever people at Framus did on progressive rock music...

Framus make a amazing range of electric guitars and produce super high quality expensive parts,knobs,tuners, mega ahhsome bridges,and tailpieces including a small range of high-end tube amplifiers and cabinet amplifiers for professional guitarist and bassists.

Earl Slick
records,tours with a Framus signature guitar,John Lennon and George Harrison used a Framus Hootenanny in 1965;including Paul McCartney's first guitar was a Zenith by Framus.

Jet Harris,Brian Locking,Heinz Burt even played Framus basses.
Bill Wyman played a Framus Star Bass starting in 1964.

Influental jazz legends Charlie Mingus and Jim Hall were endorsed by Framus.

Myself,I've been blessed to own few Framus custom Diablo Pro guitars;and record,tour,gigs with them.
(Since using Grover Jackson's Charvel guitars;Framus has been the best for me.)

Here is a foto of me at the Framus booth last January at NAMM 2014 with longtime legendary Jamaican musicians I've worked with for years,bassist Phil Chen and rhythm guitarist Tony Chin.






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A great thread. I wish I had a good technical knowledge of instruments, but this thread will certainly help.

I thought the title was spot on and I had to have a little chuckle at 'Keith Emerson playing his customised ribbon controller which released fireworks'!

I particularly liked your choice of illustrations and photos.
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Originally posted by DaleHauskins

Hi,greetings Gerinski,

Thanks for the reply,but I am not sure you're aware the impact the wonderful clever people at Framus did on progressive rock music...

Framus make a amazing range of electric guitars and produce super high quality expensive parts,knobs,tuners, mega ahhsome bridges,and tailpieces including a small range of high-end tube amplifiers and cabinet amplifiers for professional guitarist and bassists.

Earl Slick
records,tours with a Framus signature guitar,John Lennon and George Harrison used a Framus Hootenanny in 1965;including Paul McCartney's first guitar was a Zenith by Framus.

Jet Harris,Brian Locking,Heinz Burt even played Framus basses.
Bill Wyman played a Framus Star Bass starting in 1964.

Influental jazz legends Charlie Mingus and Jim Hall were endorsed by Framus.

Myself,I've been blessed to own few Framus custom Diablo Pro guitars;and record,tour,gigs with them.
(Since using Grover Jackson's Charvel guitars;Framus has been the best for me.)

Here is a foto of me at the Framus booth last January at NAMM 2014 with longtime legendary Jamaican musicians I've worked with for years,bassist Phil Chen and rhythm guitarist Tony Chin.






Well yeah, Earl Slick would probably be the one closest to classic Prog Rock among the famous players, but as good as their instruments may have been, with all respect to everybody else and Framus itself I'd say that they were not in the same popularity range as the other guitar and bass makers mentioned in my article when it comes to Prog Rock famous musicians. At any rate it's nice that you mention them!

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Fabulous. This is a resource for the ages. I of course always knew Tony Banks used an electric piano, but knew nothing of the model, type, and characteristics until now. I liked how the ambiguity between organs and synths was discussed. This always interests me. One detail that I think is incorrect is the 1977 date for the first E-Bow. My information, which is simply from Wikipedia, is that it was invented in 1969. I believe it's heard fairly distinctly in the instrumental interlude on Led Zeppelin's Whole Lotta Love. Again, though, this is a magnificent piece of work that I'm privileged to have access to.

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^ Hi, both are correct, here's the info from the EBow official site, first working model in 1969 but commercial presentation in 1976







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That's interesting. I wonder if there's a back story for why it took so long to go to market. I have to wonder now what I was hearing on the Zeppelin song. There's a place if you go to far over the pickup where you get a brief little tremolo blip or glitch with the e-bow. It sounds like one of the odd effects you hear in Whole Lotta Love, but now I have to wonder what it was really. Scratching my head.

I'm looking forward to 2020.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gerinski Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2014 at 09:42
Originally posted by HackettFan

That's interesting. I wonder if there's a back story for why it took so long to go to market. I have to wonder now what I was hearing on the Zeppelin song. There's a place if you go to far over the pickup where you get a brief little tremolo blip or glitch with the e-bow. It sounds like one of the odd effects you hear in Whole Lotta Love, but now I have to wonder what it was really. Scratching my head.

I'm looking forward to 2020.
Well, as you see the first working concept from 1969 was something integrated in the guitar, so I don't think we can call that what we now mean by E-Bow, it must have been more something like what some Roland synth-controller guitars had in the 80's, they could generate an electromagnetic field to the strings in order to achieve infinite sustain.
The first handheld prototype came in 1974 so a commercial introduction in 1976 is not that long.

Perhaps Page used a real violin bow in Whole Lotta Love? He loved them you know.
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Originally posted by HackettFan

That's interesting. I wonder if there's a back story for why it took so long to go to market. I have to wonder now what I was hearing on the Zeppelin song. There's a place if you go to far over the pickup where you get a brief little tremolo blip or glitch with the e-bow. It sounds like one of the odd effects you hear in Whole Lotta Love, but now I have to wonder what it was really. Scratching my head.

I'm looking forward to 2020.

Well, as you see the first working concept from 1969 was something integrated in the guitar, so I don't think we can call that what we now mean by E-Bow, it must have been more something like what some Roland synth-controller guitars had in the 80's, they could generate an electromagnetic field to the strings in order to achieve infinite sustain.
The first handheld prototype came in 1974 so a commercial introduction in 1976 is not that long.
Perhaps Page used a real violin bow in Whole Lotta Love? He loved them you know.

I see. That makes sense. I knew the sustainer pickups were closely related to the E-Bow, but I've known about E-Bows for a lot longer and just presumed that the sustainer pickups were derivative. It's the other way around, apparently. Of course there is a patent out there read. I wasn't ever interested doing so, but now maybe I am. Dean has a thread in Tech Talk on him building a sustainer pickup.
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Here is some photos of the Swiss progressive rock band I was the guitarist in called Flame Dream "Supervision" tour at a sold out concert Kunsthaus KKL Luzern Culture and Convention Centre in Lucerne,Switzerland. http://www.luzern.com/en/kkl-luzern

Swiss bassist,Moog Torus bass pedals,vocalist Urs Hochuli performing on his double neck with Flame Dream.



Monster Swiss keyboardist Roland "Roli" Ruckstuhl playing used two Mellotrons,endorsed by Sequential Circuits,with SCI's Prophet-5 & 10,ARP,Oberheim;and of coarse playng Yamaha's CP80.

Flame Dream Swiss musicians performing a sold out show at the KKL in Lucerne,Switzerland http://www.luzern.com/en/kkl-luzern drummer,percussionist Pit Furrer,bassist,vocalist Urs Hochul,lead singer,oboist,flautist,double-reed woodwind specialist Peter Wolf;with Roland "Roli" Ruckstuhl on all keyboards,Mellotrons;and the vocoder synthesis system.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_Dream



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^ Thanks for posting those Dale!
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