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JD 
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 Topic: Did Steve Wilson create a new genre?
Posted: July 12 2014 at 08:51 |
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Over the last few months I've found quite a few bands who have been reviewed as sounding like Porcupine Tree. I've checked some of them out and find it true. Knowing that "Neo-Prog" is for the most part based on the sound of Gabriel era Genesis and to a lesser degree Yes, is it fair to say Steve has created a new genre? What would such a genre be called?
My submission is:
Nu-Porcu Prog
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sleeper
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 08:53 |
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No, don't be silly.
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Dean
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 08:54 |
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What?
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rdtprog
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 09:32 |
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i was asking myself the same question, yesterday listening to PT Fear of a black... I couldn't find anything before him that sounds like PT. Mr. Wilson would be proud, knowing his hate for the Neo-Prog genre. But i wouldn't go as far as saying that he has created a new genre. Maybe PT has crafted something new with something old from different genre of music.
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Gerinski
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 10:43 |
Nu-Porky Prog ?
Why not Porky-Pain Tree Prog? 
Edited by Gerinski - July 12 2014 at 10:48
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paganinio
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Posted: July 12 2014 at 20:02 |
 rdtprog wrote:
i was asking myself the same question, yesterday listening to PT Fear of a black... I couldn't find anything before him that sounds like PT.
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Fear of a Blank Planet is IMO: progressive metal + dream pop + Tool the dream pop part gives it the cold edge but it's not a new genre. Like all of the Porcupine Tree output, they took something from other genres and mixed it with our standard prog.
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friso
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 03:57 |
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Did any-one éver create a new genre..?
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octopus-4
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 04:48 |
JD wrote:
Over the last few months I've found quite a few bands who have been reviewed as sounding like Porcupine Tree. I've checked some of them out and find it true. Knowing that "Neo-Prog" is for the most part based on the sound of Gabriel era Genesis and to a lesser degree Yes, is it fair to say Steve has created a new genre? What would such a genre be called?
My submission is:
Nu-Porcu Prog
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South to Rome, "Nu Porcu" means "one pork"
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octopus-4
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 04:50 |
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I've also heard a radio dj calling them "Porcupink Floyd"
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Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 05:14 |
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I don't think he 'created' anything 'new', but he certainly bumped existing forms up a notch or two.
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 05:31 |
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He came kinda close with the original mix of 'Up the Downstair' with his unique mesh of IDM, 90s neopsychedelic electronica and pure high soaring space rock. Another example of this "new genre" (haha!) is found on the original 30+ version of Sky Moves Sideways. What a tune!
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 06:03 |
^ But he screwed up 'Up the Downstair' with the 2005 remaster 
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Altairius
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 07:18 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
He came kinda close with the original mix of 'Up the Downstair' with his unique mesh of IDM, 90s neopsychedelic electronica and pure high soaring space rock. Another example of this "new genre" (haha!) is found on the original 30+ version of Sky Moves Sideways. What a tune! |
This. Also, silly genre name in OP aside, couldn't PT arguably have started what's known as 'nu-prog' (while being 100x better than the rest of it)? Mainly with their later sound.
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 16:46 |
That's exactly what he wants you to think, but it's all just moody, watered-down parts of other genres put together for a whole that is ideal for being over-rated 
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: July 13 2014 at 19:13 |
Meltdowner wrote:
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But he screwed up 'Up the Downstair' with the 2005 remaster
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I can't agree with that at all.
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richardh
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Posted: July 14 2014 at 00:24 |
Earendil wrote:
That's exactly what he wants you to think, but it's all just moody, watered-down parts of other genres put together for a whole that is ideal for being over-rated
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sums up my feelings perfectly about....
Dark Side Of The Moon
Edited by richardh - July 14 2014 at 00:24
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adenauer
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Posted: July 14 2014 at 03:39 |
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I hate how everything has to be a part of some genre, and if it desn't fit any, no harm done we'll make something up! The need to categorise is just inescapable
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Kotro
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Posted: July 14 2014 at 04:30 |
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Definitely not create, but I'd defend the case for the Porcupine Tree sound circa 1996-2005 strongly help shaping Crossover Prog.
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Posted: July 15 2014 at 13:30 |
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"Post-industrial doomgaze"
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Smurph
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Posted: July 15 2014 at 13:38 |
richardh wrote:
Earendil wrote:
That's exactly what he wants you to think, but it's all just moody, watered-down parts of other genres put together for a whole that is ideal for being over-rated
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sums up my feelings perfectly about....
Dark Side Of The Moon
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Agreed
Also Porcupine Tree isn't really anything new imo
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Did Steve Wilson create a new genre?
