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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 12:00
GG is very much revered in prog circles but a little obscure for the same reason Yes and Kansas aren't - they refused to cater to the lowest common denominator and stuck fiercely by their artistic muse (that is, until Giant for a Day and The Missing Piece, don't waste your money on these unless you're a completist). BTW, I like Yes and Kansas.
Most folks really embrace Octopus quickly but you'll find their very best songs on a smattering of albums and they're all must-have's up to and including Interview (I Lost My Head, for example).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 20:10
Originally posted by mike1259 mike1259 wrote:

GG is very much revered in prog circles but a little obscure for the same reason Yes and Kansas aren't - they refused to cater to the lowest common denominator and stuck fiercely by their artistic muse (that is, until Giant for a Day and The Missing Piece, don't waste your money on these unless you're a completist). BTW, I like Yes and Kansas.
Most folks really embrace Octopus quickly but you'll find their very best songs on a smattering of albums and they're all must-have's up to and including Interview (I Lost My Head, for example).

You missed it, Mikey. Don't lump The Missing Piece in with that piece of crap that followed. With the exception of Betcha Thought We Couldn't Do It, it was the last good (I didn't say great) 'Giant studio album before the band jumped the shark entirely, witnessed by the sweeping Memories of Old Days. I would also venture to say most 'Giant fans have all their studio albums and then some (live albums, box sets, DVDs)!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 21:20
^ I do agree about The Missing Piece, though IMO Giant for a Day and Civilian have their moments, though of course they can't hold a candle to Three Friends, Power & Glory, Free Hand…okay, all of them up to Interview. FBOFW, they were shifting to a more commercial sound at the same time as many of their contemporaries.

BTW, Here’s a couple recent threads on the same subject:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97594&KW=Gentle+Giant

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97217&KW=Gentle+Giant



Edited by AreYouHuman - July 23 2014 at 21:23
Caption: We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously.

Silly human race! Yes is for everybody!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 21:33
Haven't yet discovered GG's music...but looking forward to....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 21:37
^^ Get to it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 10:10

Have you seen this concert? Amazing stuff!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-yGcpaY_4
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 10:14
Have it on DVD.  Great concert, though I slightly prefer the German TV concert.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 14:47
Gentle Giant were tremendous live.  I saw them in 1974 just after the release of my favorite album by them, "The Power and the Glory".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 15:32
Gentle Giant are incredible. Still can't get my head around how they can write albums like "The Power And The Glory" and "Free Hand", and on top of that, perform them! Not sure why they go so un-noticed. Probably because they're that bit more obscure than Yes, Genesis, and even King Crimson/VDGG in ways.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 16:20
As an American lifelong Los Angeles guitarist,I was blessed to be the guitarist in a Swiss progressive rock band called Flame Dream.
We were often compared to Gentle Giant...

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unfamiliar about Switzerland's Flame Dream,we recorded 5 albums on Vertigo Records;and one album on the Phillips Record Label.
Most of our albums were recorded at Yes,Moody Blues amazing Swiss keyboardist Patrick Moraz's studios in Geneva,Switzerland (Where most prog and fusion bands recorded at in Europe at the time.)
Flame Dream albums were mostly produced,mixed and recorded by the very clever English gent John Acock(Producer for Steve Hackett).

http://www.progressiveworld.net/html/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=1555
http://www.math.harvard.edu/~knill/teaching/mathe320_2011/exhibits/morley/index.html



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 20:27
Listening to Power and The Glory right now. Just some awesomely weird stuff. This is hardcore prog. I'm loving it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 01:37
The discovery of GG is always a magic moment in a progger's life Tongue, you always think "WTF how had I missed them so far?" They were the less popular of the 1970's giants.
If you go with the PA ratings you can't go wrong, Free Hand, Power and the Glory, In A Glass House, Three Friends, Octopus... great stuff.

Watching the videos is a good way to get to know them better




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 11:46
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

Gentle Giant are incredible. Still can't get my head around how they can write albums like "The Power And The Glory" and "Free Hand", and on top of that, perform them! Not sure why they go so un-noticed. Probably because they're that bit more obscure than Yes, Genesis, and even King Crimson/VDGG in ways.

The more I listen to them, the more I love them. I can see certainly how someone couldn't get into them. They are an acquired taste but so are Genesis, Yes, or King Crimson for example. What's interesting is they write this complex music but it comes across in such an accessible way. Granted there are times when it's challenging. Like, for instance, I don't enjoy their a cappella stuff like Knots, but, thankfully, they didn't these types of songs too often. I don't know why they go unnoticed and have remained pretty underrated, but it's a shame.

I remember the first time I heard Gentle Giant. A friend of mine had Octopus on cassette and we listened to in his car. I really couldn't believe my ears. They were so weird yet there was so much heart in the music that I could tell these musicians loved performing this music. I was hooked right after The Advent of Panurge finished.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 12:02
And Kerry Minnear one of the undeservedly forgotten keys giants, we talk a lot of Emerson, Wakeman, Banks, Bardens, Moraz et al but Minnear was right up there with them and we too seldom include him in the mix.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 12:13
omfg, i am one step closer to checking these "monster musicians" out one of these days. if you say that its THAT complex, im listening to it. and im 15 for crying out loud!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 14:27
Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

omfg, i am one step closer to checking these "monster musicians" out one of these days. if you say that its THAT complex, im listening to it. and im 15 for crying out loud!!
You're gonna freak out Tongue  (but don't understand "complexity" in the modern meaning of Prog-Metal, Tech-Extreme etc).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 14:59
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

And Kerry Minnear one of the undeservedly forgotten keys giants, we talk a lot of Emerson, Wakeman, Banks, Bardens, Moraz et al but Minnear was right up there with them and we too seldom include him in the mix.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 15:10
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

And Kerry Minnear one of the undeservedly forgotten keys giants, we talk a lot of Emerson, Wakeman, Banks, Bardens, Moraz et al but Minnear was right up there with them and we too seldom include him in the mix.
Bardens and Moraz? Do we talk often enough about them? But I digress.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 15:12
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

And Kerry Minnear one of the undeservedly forgotten keys giants, we talk a lot of Emerson, Wakeman, Banks, Bardens, Moraz et al but Minnear was right up there with them and we too seldom include him in the mix.
Bardens and Moraz? Do we talk often enough about them?

I think Moraz and Bardens are both underrated for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2014 at 16:48
I like the first three albums. Then ...
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