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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 01:39
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that opens up another can of worms as there is a spoken section (the title track). Also what is the concept? ( I genuinely don't know although I suppose it could just be 'Planet Earth' perhaps?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 01:40
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

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Incantations is probably my favourite whether it be an 'idea' or a 'concept' or whatever. It works for me and feels very complete. I like the fact that he had this 'idea' and developed it as far as it could go. Many would say it was stretched out but hey ho.
For me The Song of Hiawatha and Ode to Cynthia would tend to disqualify Incantations as being an instrumental album and Hiawatha is a little "off topic" for the album's goddess concept. However, I do understand where you are coming from, this was the first Oldfield album that popped into my head when Pedro mentioned that a lot of Oldfield fits (in reality only some of his fits in my estimation but strange as it seems, I'm not here to argue finer details since some of his albums are indeed instrumental concept albums).

Also 'Diana' as well I suppose. Does any Oldfield qualify as purely instrumental. I guess if someone is just singing 'Ommadawn' that still using the voice as an instrument rather than singing a song?

BTW Claire Hammill's Voices. Instrumental or not?Smile
The use of vocalisation and vocable is using the voice as an instrument rather than singing a song so I would consider Claire Hamill's Voices to be an instrumental album and the 'Diana, Luna, Lucina' section of Incantations part one is a rhythmic chant, albeit sung like a synth-pad, so again I would view that as instrumental rather than lyrical. Of course song lyrics do not have to be coherent or make sense to be thought of as songs and many of them form an integral part of the musical content of the tune but I think there is a clear distinction between vocalisation and lyricism that we can recognise even if sometimes vocable seems to be a "place-holder" for a real lyric that failed to materialise (thinking Jon Anderson and Peter Gabriel here where use of vocable is more than just providing a sha-la-la-la type backing vocal - other members of Genesis weren't always impressed by Gabriel's scat vocalisations over instrumental sections on SEbtP).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 10:26
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

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that opens up another can of worms as there is a spoken section (the title track). Also what is the concept? ( I genuinely don't know although I suppose it could just be 'Planet Earth' perhaps?)

Quote Albedo 0.39 is an album by the artist Vangelis, released in 1976. It is a concept album around space and space physics. Albedo 0.39 was the second album produced by Vangelis in Nemo Studios, London, which was his creative base until the late 1980s. It contrasts with his previous album, Heaven and Hell, which was classically inspired and choral, while Albedo 0.39 has blues and jazz overtones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 20:16
Rick Wakeman's Criminal Record (1977)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 01:13
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Rick Wakeman's Criminal Record (1977)

ignoring the Breathalyser Wink

(which is a good idea)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 01:59


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François Couturier
Nostalghia – Song for Tarkovsky

François Couturier piano
Anja Lechner violoncello
Jean Marc Larché soprano saxophone
Jean Louis Matinier accordion
Recorded December 2005, Auditorium Radio Svizzera, Lugano
Engineer: Markus Heiland
Produced by Manfred Eicher

“What kind of world is this if a madman tells you you must be ashamed of yourselves? Music now!”

So espouses Erland Josephson as Domenico in Andrei Tarkovsky’s 1983 masterpieceNostalghia, of which this album by pianist François Couturier takes the name. Domenico is, in many ways, himself a musical figure. As the very madman he admonishes, one who shackled his family in their own home for seven years as protection against an imperfect world, he is constantly refolding his own psyche in a leitmotif of fixation, building reality from blocks of fanciful impulses, each more poetic than the last. Yet as Tarkovsky himself once averred, art exists only because the world is imperfect. Music thrives on insanity.

That said, the even keel of Nostalghia presents the listener with such an expressive compass that even the most elemental sound becomes a northward tug. Anyone who has followed Couturier’s ECM travels will know that he is a musician of many directions. From the taut classical forays of Poros to the border-crossing trio recordings with Anouar Brahem (see Le pas du chat noir and Le voyage de sahar), he is anything but predictable. Counting cellist Anja Lechner, accordionist Jean Louis Matinier, and saxophonist Jean Marc Larché among the present company, he darkens Tarkovsky’s blueprints with the press of every key until they are ashen with wayfaring.

The album’s outer circle is inscribed by way of “Erbarme Dich” from Bach’s St Matthew Passion, which seeds the opening and closing tracks by way of profound lament. In the absence of words, “Le Sacrifice” (Bach’s aria appears in the Tarkovsky film of the same name) holds on to the text of the moment. In the absence of the cross, one feels the intersection of piano and accordion as a sacrifice in and of itself. The feeling of decay is palpable—surely, if imperceptibly, approaching disappearance—as was Tarkovsky’s play of color and shadow. The concluding “L’éternel retour” unravels by way of piano alone. Like a lost entry from Vassilis Tsabropoulos’s The Promise), its hand closes the lid of a box that houses creative spirit. That the song bears dedication to Erland Josephson indicates Couturier’s attention to detail in paying tribute not only to the artist of interest, but also his brilliant actors and collaborators.

“Crépusculaire,” for instance, honors Sven Nykvist, Ingmar Bergman’s right-hand cinematographer (who also filmed The Sacrifice) and moves accordingly by the touch of Lechner’s picturesque bowing. Her feel for notecraft and harmony is matched only by her attention to atmosphere. Couturier blends pigments with charcoal-stained fingers, each a pontiff reduced to a smudge across gray sky as the accordion finds its peace in the waters below. The combination aches with dew, trembling on grass stems when the three instruments at last share the same breath in focus.

“Nostalghia” is for screenwriter Tonino Guerra, with whom Tarkovsky co-wrote the screenplay for that very film. It opens us to the affectations of the full quartet and takes its inspiration from Schnittke’s Sonata No. 1 for violoncello and piano. This gentle music is a wish turned into stone and laid in stagnant water. The most obvious dedication, “Andreï,” also incorporates the Schnittke. A steady pulse in the left hand frees the right to orbit the keyboard, while the accordion fits like wind to wing over barren plains of consciousness.

“Stalker” gives proper attention to Eduard Artemyev, who wrote the soundtracks for that film and Solaris, and meshes bucolic and hypermodern impulses in kind. Its impactful pianism gives up many relics, each more sacred than the last. Anatoly Solonitsyn, lead actor of Andrei Rublev, is the final dedicatee. With its allusions to the “Amen” from Pergolesi’s Stabat Mater, “Toliu” multiplies shades of night.

Although Couturier consciously avoided the evocation of specific Tarkovsky scenery (this is more than a concept album), the feeling of pathos is so visual that one might as well be watching a film by the great director. The pianism shines like the water so prevalent in Tarkovsky’s cinema, if not swimming among many artifacts strewn below the surface. And in any sense, Couturier is very much the director of all that one hears throughout the program, as borne out most directly in the freely improvised “Solaris I” and “Solaris II.” In these the soprano saxophone turns the sun into a pilot light, and the world its oven, even as the rest of the ensemble hangs icicles from the eaves. Still, the overall effect is more literary than filmic, picking up words and turning them into actions that grow with listening.

“Ivan” references Ivan’s Childhood, Tarkovsky’s first feature. Its declamatory beginning spawns an almost theatrical feeling in distorted fairytale gestures before the quartet rejoins to finish off strong. In the wake of such confluence, Couturier’s solo “Miroir” wipes the slate clean, leaving superbly engineered ambience as the only evidence of an inner world to be discovered. Each step taken on this Escherian staircase walks a path of light.

Perfection may be an impossible ideal, but this album almost touches it. It’s a sheet of paper curling into its own insecurity for want of inscription. Don’t let it slip through your fingers, no matter what kind of quill you wield.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 02:50
I think Days Between Stations debut is a concept Album based on a novel by Steve Erickson.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 05:17
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

If Pink Floyd will release a new album as an instrumental & "back to basis" album as it was announced as well, it gonna be produced as an instrumental concept album, methinks.

I wish, but ...

... Polly Samson (spelling?) and Durga-something got involved, which means there shall be lyrics and they shall be duly sung, so it won't be a purebred instrumental album. 

Also I read the style going to be "ambient"; I don't know if ambient music can be shaped into a concept album? Perhaps .. but not in the proggy sense. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 06:57
Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

If Pink Floyd will release a new album as an instrumental & "back to basis" album as it was announced as well, it gonna be produced as an instrumental concept album, methinks. 

I wish, but ...

... Polly Samson (spelling?) and Durga-something got involved, which means there shall be lyrics and they shall be duly sung, so it won't be a purebred instrumental album. 

Also I read the style going to be "ambient"; I don't know if ambient music can be shaped into a concept album? Perhaps .. but not in the proggy sense. 
Maybe they will make an album with a so short singing part that the album could be called *instrumental* - in my opinion of course; e.g. imo Albedo 0.39 is an instrumental album although there are some nicely recorded spoken words in the title track and of course these, say, very short and charming "preludes" created by spoken words that you can hear between the tracks.
Regarding that "ambient" thing, I think that in PF case it could be anything. Personally, I would like to hear new PF in a psychedelic / post-rock  style.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2015 at 09:36
Though not a household name around here, Spanish RIO/Avant outfit October Equus have released a truly outstanding instrumental concept album about Lord Franklin's doomed expedition in search of the North-West Passage, by the apt title of Permafrost: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42045. You can also find a review of it on my blog.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2015 at 07:14
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Though not a household name around here, Spanish RIO/Avant outfit October Equus have released a truly outstanding instrumental concept album about Lord Franklin's doomed expedition in search of the North-West Passage, by the apt title of Permafrost: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42045. You can also find a review of it on my blog.
 
Thumbs Up Great suggestion - also a good example of how evocative artwork and track titles can work to make the "concept" more effective.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2015 at 07:25
Voivode Dracula by Karda Estra:
 
 
Really conjures up that dreamy, disturbing eroticism.  Has wordless singing, which - like Dean said - I don't think takes away from it being "instrumental".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2015 at 08:09
^ Karda Estra, one of these bands I always liked to investigate further but never found time...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2015 at 08:54
^ I know what you mean, there's just too much stuff out there.  I think KE is worth a bit of time to investigate though (and you can hear all their albums free on Bandcamp).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2015 at 23:06

Absolute Elsewhere – “In Search of Ancient Gods” (based on the occasionally discredited writings of Erich von Daniken)

David Bedford – “The Odyssey”

Bo Hansson – “The Lord of the Rings”

Anthony Phillips – “1984”

Jan Hammer – “The First Seven Days”

Steve Hackett – “A Midsummer Night’s Dream”

Dave Greenslade – “The Pentateuch of the Cosmogony”

Gordon Giltrap – “Visionary” (based on William Blake’s works)

Tom Newman – “Bayou Moon”

Tom Newman – “Aspects”

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