Rob Reed - Sanctuary

The Doctor wrote: 1-"This is a good album but this is irrelevant". To you maybe, but not to me. It's not a copy either. A copy would be a cover of Tubular Bells or Ommadawn, not a new piece of music in the style of TB. 2- A true tribute album is just that. A tribute to the artist whose style is being used. There is no need for it to have its own specifics or elements or it loses its value as a tribute album. 3- He did not COPY Oldfield's music. He composed his own music in Oldfield's style. Those are two quite different things. Why you talk like this? 4- Ok. Fair enough. 5- That's because neither Magenta nor Kompendium were Genesis tributes, but have their own style which may draw some elements from Genesis. Sanctuary is a tribute album that uses the style of another to create NEW music in that style. 6- Because it is NEW. I have Oldfield's first four albums (and then some), but I like the style and this is NEW MUSIC in that style. It is not a COPY. A COPY would be Reed actually playing Tubular Bells or Incantations or Hergest Ridge. THAT would be a copy.

O666 wrote: Tribute album must cover songs of original Artist's album or songs(IMO). By Searching in PA you can see that. I never see this kind of tribute as you say. One musician playing his/her new songs in others style (even in smallest details) and named Tribute on it.  Can you give me a CLEAR "this kind of tribute" album? I honestly want to know that and I dont want to proof my opinion in this way. I really want to see one fit Example.

I agree for the most part. I don't particularly care for tribute albums that are nothing but covers. 99 times out of 100, the original is better than the cover, whether the remake is a note for note copy or a different take on the original. There are some exceptions of course, a lot of the early Beatles tunes were covers that I prefer to the originals (Money, Twist & Shout, etc.). I think a real tribute is to do new music in the style of a band or artist, I think there you get the best of something new and something old.

The fact that he used Oldfield's style, sound, format, accompaniment, etc. very clearly points to it being a tribute, without the need for Rob Reed to spell it out for us. However, Reed stating that since Oldfield didn't do that style of music anymore, somebody should be (how is that not blatantly telling us that it's a tribute album). Would you like "TRIBUTE" written in big bold letters on the front cover to clue you in? Listening to the music should be able to tell you that.

Basically, what you're saying is that should I compose and perform an album of original material in the style of Genesis, so close to Genesis that it could be considered a "lost" Genesis album, but don't state that it's a tribute album, then it's not a tribute album, but if I state that it is, then it is? So the actual music on the album is meaningless? Only what I say in the liner notes or in interviews is important?    

Edited by The Doctor - August 01 2014 at 11:42

Copyright rules are just that, if Reed had COPIED Mike Oldfield's work, like parts of Tubular Bells (note for note) and tried to pass it off as his own work without giving Oldfield proper credit and royalties, it would violate copyright laws. Just using a style of music that others have used is not a violation of copyright laws. Otherwise, just about every musician on the planet has at some point or another violated copyright laws.

I've given you several logical reasons why this isn't a copy and IS a tribute album, you've just chosen to ignore them. The fact that this would NOT in any way violate copyright laws is just one more reason why this isn't a copy. He would have to COPY Oldfield's actual music that he had already written, not just his style.

What else could possibly be Reed's purpose except as a tribute to Oldfield and it's been all over the place where Reed has said basically "THIS IS DONE IN THE STYLE OF MIKE OLDFIELD". How much clearer does he have to be to satisfy you? Do you think maybe his purpose was world domination? Step 1 - Do album in style of Tubular Bells. Step 3 - assume complete power over entire planet. Step 2 - ?. (So I don't violate copyright laws, with thanks to South Park - "The Underpants Gnomes" episode).   

The Doctor wrote: Copyright rules are just that, if Reed had COPIED Mike Oldfield's work, like parts of Tubular Bells (note for note) and tried to pass it off as his own work without giving Oldfield proper credit and royalties, it would violate copyright laws. Just using a style of music that others have used is not a violation of copyright laws. Otherwise, just about every musician on the planet has at some point or another violated copyright laws. I've given you several logical reasons why this isn't a copy and IS a tribute album, you've just chosen to ignore them. The fact that this would NOT in any way violate copyright laws is just one more reason why this isn't a copy. He would have to COPY Oldfield's actual music that he had already written, not just his style. What else could possibly be Reed's purpose except as a tribute to Oldfield and it's been all over the place where Reed has said basically "THIS IS DONE IN THE STYLE OF MIKE OLDFIELD". How much clearer does he have to be to satisfy you? Do you think maybe his purpose was world domination? Step 1 - Do album in style of Tubular Bells. Step 3 - assume complete power over entire planet. Step 2 - ?. (So I don't violate copyright laws, with thanks to South Park - "The Underpants Gnomes" episode).

Having listened to this, I can't imagine for a moment that Reed meant this to be taken seriously, it's a light hearted nod and very well done bow to classic Oldfield.
I find the album amusing and problems only crop up if it's taken more seriously than Reed must have intended.
On top of that it's a godsend for anyone who has been starved of early Oldfield for decades now.
I for one am quite thankful that this album exists; the lost Oldfield tapes.

Please guys. Hold up 1 minute! I said I LOVE SANCTUARY AND I LISTENED TO THIS ALBUM SO MUCH AND I WILL LISTEN TO SANCTUARY MORE AND MORE ...

. Thank you so much Dean. Complete answer and I learn more.