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ebil0505
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Topic: Love in All the Wrong Places Posted: July 25 2014 at 01:02 |
Well I shouldn't say WRONG places, but unexpected no doubt. I have made the recent realization that some prog songs will throw in a love lyric without warning into a non-love song (roughly 97% of prog music). For example: the song Drip Drip by Comus has a part just before the chorus returns where they sing "I love you" very convincingly and in sharp contrast to all the lyrics that surround the line. Yet, it is still very passionate and believable. What others do you know of where something similar happens? Do you think it works? Does the lack of repetitive love lyrics make the lone one stand out? Maybe even better than actual love songs? Well?? Do they?!?!
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 05:43 |
Ian Anderson's "The Secret Language of Birds".
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 11:30 |
ebil0505 wrote:
Well I shouldn't say WRONG places, but unexpected no doubt. I have made the recent realization that some prog songs will throw in a love lyric without warning into a non-love song (roughly 97% of prog music).
For example: the song Drip Drip by Comus has a part just before the chorus returns where they sing "I love you" very convincingly and in sharp contrast to all the lyrics that surround the line. Yet, it is still very passionate and believable.
What others do you know of where something similar happens? Do you think it works? Does the lack of repetitive love lyrics make the lone one stand out? Maybe even better than actual love songs? Well?? Do they?!?! |
Do you include love for some thing, not just some one?
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 11:33 |
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 16:08 |
Hi,
"A Way Out" by Peter Hammill ... one of my favorite songs ever by anyone. Also another one of his in the album "Over", the song about "Alice" and "On Tuesdays She Does Yoga", they don't say it ... but it doesn't need to!
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 16:31 |
^ Glad you mentioned Over. That reminds me - "Time Heals" ("I love you, I love you, I wish I was dreaming"). Really, pretty much the whole album is about Peter's severed relationship with his past love, even though most of the songs on the album do not feature an explicit love lyric.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - July 25 2014 at 16:33
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ebil0505
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 16:51 |
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 19:38 |
Rush seems to have songs like that.
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Posted: July 26 2014 at 13:43 |
ebil0505 wrote:
For example: the song Drip Drip by Comus has a part just before the chorus returns where they sing "I love you" very convincingly and in sharp contrast to all the lyrics that surround the line. Yet, it is still very passionate and believable.
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Well, it IS a love song - albeit one sung to a corpse.....
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Michael678
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Posted: July 26 2014 at 15:01 |
i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though.
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AreYouHuman
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Posted: July 29 2014 at 22:50 |
Michael678 wrote:
i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though. | Not only IS that the line in Lady Fantasy, it’s the last one. Lost by VDGG also has I Love You as the last line.
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Posted: July 30 2014 at 09:40 |
A lot a Marillion songs use "love"
Genesis "Supper's Ready" it is actually a love song if you check the lyrics
Yes "And You And I"
Some Opeth songs are love songs
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Posted: August 04 2014 at 13:08 |
I may be a minority here, but I don't mind prog songs being about love
at all. Love is after all a very central topic for all of us, and much
of what's going on in our lives is about love, or the lack thereof. What
turns me off, and what I don't like to hear, are the cliché lyrics
about love, without deeper meaning or feeeling, that are everywhere in
mainstream pop. So welcome to love in prog music, but please try to say something original.
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Posted: August 04 2014 at 21:11 |
Michael678 wrote:
i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though. | Well, as far as I understand "Lady Fantasy" is a love song. Something about a woman the singer can't get. I guess I would need to pay better attention to the lyrics. Very beautiful song, though.
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Posted: August 05 2014 at 08:49 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Glad you mentioned Over. That reminds me - "Time Heals" ("I love you, I love you, I wish I was dreaming"). Really, pretty much the whole album is about Peter's severed relationship with his past love, even though most of the songs on the album do not feature an explicit love lyric. |
I always thought that "A Way Out", is insane and totally with it. We have so many excuses for everything ... anything ... and in the end, it was about one line ... we never said it!
And now you know why I am not ashamed of my feelings, even in this board. You either "care", and "love", or you don't!
Old_Wise_Owl wrote:
I may be a minority here, but I don't mind prog songs being about love at all. Love is after all a very central topic for all of us, and much of what's going on in our lives is about love, or the lack thereof.
What turns me off, and what I don't like to hear, are the cliché lyrics about love, without deeper meaning or feeeling, that are everywhere in mainstream pop.
So welcome to love in prog music, but please try to say something original.
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I just think the cynicism, about the word "love", is insane. So a metal band can't sing about "love" or use that word because they are "man-ly" bands, and they don't do this kind of stuff?
Crazy ... that we now define music by their ego and cynicism? Not the music itself?
Edited by moshkito - August 05 2014 at 09:03
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dr wu23
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Posted: August 05 2014 at 18:22 |
I'm not a big fan of simple love song lyrics in general and I prefer clever lyrics that talk about love in a more sophisticated manner or with metaphor.
Having said that I'm not against love......but if you are going to toss the word into a song it should at least have some bearing on the overall meaning of the lyrics which I would think would have something to do with....love.
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Posted: August 10 2014 at 17:38 |
Tull's "Wond'ring Aloud" is as beautiful a love song as you'll hear without the word "love" said once.
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Posted: August 10 2014 at 18:37 |
Moody Blues - Question, for example.
Edited by threaz - August 10 2014 at 18:37
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Michael678
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Posted: August 10 2014 at 19:57 |
AreYouHuman wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
i thought i heard something like "I Love You" when i was listening to Camel's Lady Fantasy (cause its kind of THAT popular around here), although that's probably part of the point of the song's lyrics maybe. i could be wrong, though. |
Not only IS that the line in Lady Fantasy, it’s the last one.
Lost by VDGG also has I Love You as the last line. |
yeah, i thought so.
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Posted: August 11 2014 at 00:57 |
threaz wrote:
Moody Blues - Question, for example. |
That is a song within a song which quite appeals to me
Another 'song' I've always thought of having a similar structure is the Four Seasons - Silver Star
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