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Points: 6632 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 03:47
Svetonio you know there are exactly the opposite protests too?

And about that holocaust survivor, the only difference between him and Hamas related people is that he wasn't a terrorist back in Germany, and another thing is I'll bet my ass he doesn't live in Israel.

And please stop with those idiotic videos they really don't serve your point.
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Points: 6632 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 03:49
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It's very sad.  Someday Israelis and Palestinians will be friends and work together but that's a long way off.

It will be when Palestina will be a free country.

A free country without terror you mean.
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Points: 10213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 03:53




Bradford witnessed the biggest demonstration in its history yesterday as 5,000 people gathered at a Solidarity for Gaza event in the city's Centenary Square. Speakers including George Galloway and others gathered to denounce the crimes being committed against the Palestinian people in Gaza over the last week.
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Points: 10213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 03:57
Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It's very sad.  Someday Israelis and Palestinians will be friends and work together but that's a long way off.

It will be when Palestina will be a free country.

A free country without terror you mean.
Palestine must be a sovereign and internationally recognized country.
This is the only way to stop the violence on both sides.
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Points: 1281 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 04:02
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:


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Palestine must be a sovereign and internationally recognized country.
This is the only way to stop the violence on both sides.

Never mind the fact that there will probably still be grudges on both sides, not to mention the religious fanaticism that Hamas embraces.
He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Points: 64332 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 04:02
In hindsight the UN should have thought twice about placing Israel where it is.   But that's where it was, and there wouldn't be much point in reestablishing it if you put it on Guam.   On the other hand, on Guam things would be more peaceful ~ barring the occasional native uprising ~ which is to say Israel and Palestine wouldn't have a dispute. 

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Points: 10213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 04:18
My favourite politician ever, Marshal Tito of Yugoslavia, with his friend Yasser Arafat.








Great man of Palestine last salute to the great man of Yugoslavia: Yasser Arafat in front of Tito's coffin, Belgrade 1980






We were learned in basic school to love free Palestine and Palestinian people, and their fight for freedom.
And we are still love Palestine. 
Free Palestine!





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Oy.
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Points: 6632 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 04:25
The last thing I'm gonna say to you Svetonio cause you're just talking to yourself here and that's all you care about.
I'm up for two states, I really am, what benefit do you think we are getting by occupying these very small piece of land?
We don't live there and it costs a lot of money, you know Israel is supplying electricity and water (yes to the terrorists too). But there are ways to get your freedom, and if they continue this way I hope Israel's aggression will only increase.
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^Well put. The two sides are, without doubt, as bad as each other.



I totally agree. Bad on both sides...

I do feel that the Israeli approach is disproportionate, but there is no simple solution, and the biggest problem is that the citizens of Gaza - especially the kids - who just want peace risk being radicalised and filled with hatred for Israel, thus lining up the next generation of terrorists. This is one of the key factors in perpetuating the fight from one generation to the next imo.
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Jon Snow has been speaking to youngsters in Gaza City about their lives and how they're coping with living in a warzone. And he also talks to Dr Mads Gilbert - a Norwegian doctor working at al Shifa hospital - who is treating some of the children.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

^Well put. The two sides are, without doubt, as bad as each other.



I totally agree. Bad on both sides...

I do feel that the Israeli approach is disproportionate, but there is no simple solution, and the biggest problem is that the citizens of Gaza - especially the kids - who just want peace risk being radicalised and filled with hatred for Israel, thus lining up the next generation of terrorists. This is one of the key factors in perpetuating the fight from one generation to the next imo.

How is it disproportionate? because of the numers of deaths? well I can assure you that if we didn't have that new system Iron Dome Israel would take approximately 3000 missiles up till now, that would hit populated areas and numbers of deaths in Israel could be just the same or even more. So maybe then would it be justified to act as we do?

I mean if a man slaps you in the face do you punch back only if it hurts you?
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Points: 10213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 04:54

The spiraling number of children killed in the latest conflict between Israel and the Palestinian group Hamas in Gaza has raised international concern.
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I have distant Israeli family members and they worry about what the IDF has done in Gaza...

I also attended and observed an Israel/Palestine protest here in Copley Square. The hate and the racism spewed by both sides was horrific... I blame foreign powers for using their proxies here...


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I'm in complete support of Isreal here, they have the right to defend themselves from terrorists. The cowards hide amongst the women and children not caring that they put them at risk. I'm so glad our government is 100% behind Isreal.
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I stand with you Sagi and with Israel.  

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Points: 67381 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 11:46
Israeli female soldiers have been disciplined after posting pictures of themselves in their underwear on Facebook
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Points: 1281 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 11:47
Okay, Svet, I'm all with the idea of defending Palestinian children from being bombed/beaten/etc., but Arafat was an Censored, not a great man.
He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 12:10
This thread should be called "Me posting videos and pictures and reproducing someone else's comments trying to get a visceral reaction from others who make good arguments but which I will conveniently ignore".
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Points: 12907 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2014 at 12:17
Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:

Okay, Svet, I'm all with the idea of defending Palestinian children from being bombed/beaten/etc., but Arafat was an Censored, not a great man.

 
 
 
 
Arafat was a pig and I would have loved to kick his ass when he was alive.
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