The Sky Moves Sideways

Forgotten Sons

Marillion Forgotten Sons.

Neo takes less out of 70's symphonic than modern math rock takes out of old math rock (notice how no one thinks recent math rock warranted a different genre name). Implying IQ is a 'tribute' to anything would make you deaf or demented, and even Marillion has a totally unmistakeable sound.

Why is that a stupid remark? Can you refute that PR/MR bands are generally highly repetitive and that this implies less compositional possibilities (and thus a quicker loss of innovation)? All you're left with is your preferences and can't pretend it's notably more innovative than other modern music.

Edited by Altairius - August 02 2014 at 02:20

LSDisease wrote: Horizons wrote:   Not quite, i'm fairly sure you're describing the modern symphonic scene or neo-prog.  Those have verse, chorus structures with instrumental breaks or louder keyboards, apparently making it full blown prog and hasn't ever been done beforehand. I think that's closer to long pop songs than GY!BE's Static. Just me though.  Neo prog if it's simple it's at least more dynamic than a regular pop. And it's a bit quirky too. Post rock is very predictable and simply boring. It brings nothing. It's just a musical background.

Horizons wrote:   Not quite, i'm fairly sure you're describing the modern symphonic scene or neo-prog.  Those have verse, chorus structures with instrumental breaks or louder keyboards, apparently making it full blown prog and hasn't ever been done beforehand. I think that's closer to long pop songs than GY!BE's Static. Just me though.

Neo prog if it's simple it's at least more dynamic than a regular pop. And it's a bit quirky too. Post rock is very predictable and simply boring. It brings nothing. It's just a musical background.

LSDisease wrote: Post rock is like pop with longer songs.

Horizons wrote:   I thought the steam engine was very innovative? Thanks for that wonderful complement.  And you ignored Math Rock! I guess since your last post you've realized how great it is. Try listening to more of it instead of that awful, cheesy neo-prog.

WAS innovative. Now it's something pretty old.

Post rock is like pop with longer songs. It's boring.

LSDisease wrote: Horizons wrote:   I wouldn't call it worship, besides it's better to embrace and enjoy actually interesting and innovative music rather than be like you and have an archaic mentality and look like an a****le to everyone.  Let's try to keep your post count as close to 400 as we can.  Post rock is as innovative as a steam engine. It's also as fresh as a rotten banana.  Mind your own posts jackass.

King Crimson776 wrote: genbanks wrote: King Crimson776 wrote: I thought it was self-evident but basically, neo is not as complex as symphonic or other prog subgenres. It has more standard song forms, and is therefore closer to pop music. It's about as complex as prog metal I guess (prog metal is just 'busy', not actually complex). Still a subjective opinion...read this "While the Neo-Progressive genre initially consisted of artists exploring a modernized version of Symphonic Prog, these days artists coined as Neo-Progressive cover a multitude of musical expressions, where the common denominator is the inclusion - within a progressive rock framework - of musical elements developed just prior to and after 1980. The Neo-Progressive genre in it's refined form thus covers a vast musical territory, to some extent covering all existing subsets of progressive rock and also searching out towards genres as different as new age on one side and punk and metal on the other." Source P.A. In the case of this poll the songs that are compared here, IMO Forgotten Sons has a musical structure unless with the same level of complexity than Sky moves sideways. And to say that Forgotten sons it is not too poppy is something like to say Beethoven it  is not too jazzy, I mean it is some nonosense statement. So you're saying because Forgotten Sons is around as complex as The Sky Moves Sideways, neo-prog is not necessarily a simplified form of symphonic? That is the only nonsense statement I see here.

Edited by genbanks - August 01 2014 at 07:02