Marillion vs. Porcupine Tree (two songs)

It's not easy but forgotten songs was a great song music & lirycs.

LSDisease wrote: ^it's not an opinion, it's a fact;) PT is overrated.

A fact? I guess you can prove it with scientific evidience then?

Blacksword wrote:   A fact? I guess you can prove it with scientific evidience then?

yes I can. PT 4 x 2 = 8 balls. Marillion (with Fish cos Hoggy got no balls) 5 x 2 = 10 balls. Marillion win.

PTree

LSDisease wrote: Horizons wrote: Marillion is awful and just a copy of a band they wish they were 10 years prior. Their music is boring and uninspired.  if that statement comes from a math rock / post rock fan it's ok. I don't expect someone who worships math rock to understand Marillion's music.

genbanks wrote: King Crimson776 wrote: I thought it was self-evident but basically, neo is not as complex as symphonic or other prog subgenres. It has more standard song forms, and is therefore closer to pop music. It's about as complex as prog metal I guess (prog metal is just 'busy', not actually complex). Still a subjective opinion...read this "While the Neo-Progressive genre initially consisted of artists exploring a modernized version of Symphonic Prog, these days artists coined as Neo-Progressive cover a multitude of musical expressions, where the common denominator is the inclusion - within a progressive rock framework - of musical elements developed just prior to and after 1980. The Neo-Progressive genre in it's refined form thus covers a vast musical territory, to some extent covering all existing subsets of progressive rock and also searching out towards genres as different as new age on one side and punk and metal on the other." Source P.A. In the case of this poll the songs that are compared here, IMO Forgotten Sons has a musical structure unless with the same level of complexity than Sky moves sideways. And to say that Forgotten sons it is not too poppy is something like to say Beethoven it  is not too jazzy, I mean it is some nonosense statement.

So you're saying because Forgotten Sons is around as complex as The Sky Moves Sideways, neo-prog is not necessarily a simplified form of symphonic? That is the only nonsense statement I see here.

I'm saying Forgotten Sons may be on the less poppy side of neo-prog, which is still overall a relatively poppy style of prog. Analyze the musical structure of various neo bands if you want. There are certainly metal-leaning bands within the style, but that's not the defining trait of it. The common thread in all neo bands is its root in symphonic prog, reigned into more accessible structure.

Again, what I'm saying is extremely clear (ask anyone else here to read what I'm saying if you like), and you should reconsider posting on an English-speaking forum if you have such a profound misunderstanding of any post that goes slightly beyond the most simplistic terms.


Edited by King Crimson776 - August 01 2014 at 00:56

King Crimson776 wrote: genbanks wrote: King Crimson776 wrote: I thought it was self-evident but basically, neo is not as complex as symphonic or other prog subgenres. It has more standard song forms, and is therefore closer to pop music. It's about as complex as prog metal I guess (prog metal is just 'busy', not actually complex). Still a subjective opinion...read this "While the Neo-Progressive genre initially consisted of artists exploring a modernized version of Symphonic Prog, these days artists coined as Neo-Progressive cover a multitude of musical expressions, where the common denominator is the inclusion - within a progressive rock framework - of musical elements developed just prior to and after 1980. The Neo-Progressive genre in it's refined form thus covers a vast musical territory, to some extent covering all existing subsets of progressive rock and also searching out towards genres as different as new age on one side and punk and metal on the other." Source P.A. In the case of this poll the songs that are compared here, IMO Forgotten Sons has a musical structure unless with the same level of complexity than Sky moves sideways. And to say that Forgotten sons it is not too poppy is something like to say Beethoven it  is not too jazzy, I mean it is some nonosense statement. So you're saying because Forgotten Sons is around as complex as The Sky Moves Sideways, neo-prog is not necessarily a simplified form of symphonic? That is the only nonsense statement I see here.

Edited by genbanks - August 01 2014 at 07:02

LSDisease wrote: Horizons wrote:   I wouldn't call it worship, besides it's better to embrace and enjoy actually interesting and innovative music rather than be like you and have an archaic mentality and look like an a****le to everyone.  Let's try to keep your post count as close to 400 as we can.  Post rock is as innovative as a steam engine. It's also as fresh as a rotten banana.  Mind your own posts jackass.

Horizons wrote:   I thought the steam engine was very innovative? Thanks for that wonderful complement.  And you ignored Math Rock! I guess since your last post you've realized how great it is. Try listening to more of it instead of that awful, cheesy neo-prog.

WAS innovative. Now it's something pretty old.

Post rock is like pop with longer songs. It's boring.

LSDisease wrote: Post rock is like pop with longer songs.