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    Posted: August 08 2014 at 08:17
Here's a link to a recent NPR story:
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/07/338606558/your-favorite-songs-abridged

A radio programming executive in Calgary thinks today's songs (3-5 minutes!) are too long. He wants to redefine what listeners want by playing only songs that he/his outfit has edited for length. No, I don't live under a rock. I've heard the results of such editing done before on the radio, but to hear such blatantly Orwellian goals laid out so programmatically and undisguised was new for me. Comments?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 09:15
Those long songs do so get in the way of the adverts don't they.



...and of course, they pay mechanical royalties per minute.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 09:54
This will push the listenership of regular radio down the level of 10 year olds who have about that much attention span. This dude needs to look at the state of the CD market to see what idiotic decisions made by so called industry leaders does to a business / industry. I moved away from radio more than 25 years ago because there was too much talk and ads and very little music, even less music of interest. So good luck with that.

On a side note maybe this is indicative of what's to come anyway. Radio stations that have nothing but ads with DJ's thanking the sponsors for their commercials spaced by 15 second instrumental blips that sound more like the THX or Dolby theme's than any semblance of a song. Just last night I saw an ad on TV for a show that watches people sit on their couch while they watch TV.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 10:31
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Those long songs do so get in the way of the adverts don't they.
...and of course, they pay mechanical royalties per minute.
Royalties, of course. I think they're advertising twice the music (more titles within the same total time frame), so I expect they would claim it to be a wash as to what they pay out. I suspect quite strongly that they've figured the math so that they can reduce the total time frame and still get more songs in, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 11:04
Well, most of these modern 3 min Pop songs are too long for me too LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 11:05
JD pretty much nailed it up above. News like this is why I'm incredibly cynical towards the consumption of art/media via outlets like radio. Catering to people's dwindling attention spans is doing less and less to help the human race IMHO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 11:18
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Just last night I saw an ad on TV for a show that watches people sit on their couch while they watch TV.
TV Reality shows are becoming a real cancer, it's like they compete for who makes a worse, more decadent one, and as incredible as it seems, people watch them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 12:03
I can't wait to see this guy working in a radio station specialised in classical music and operas...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 12:49
He can just play Napalm Death and Ramones songs all day then. Tw*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 12:50
Who listens to the radio?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 12:51
That's what AM radio used to be for...I think the "25 or 6 to 4"  AM radio version was 2+ minutes long when I was a kid. I didn't even know Kath could play anything until I got the LP version.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 13:01
I know, let's edit down "Bohemian Rhapsody", it's far too long.

"Is this the real life, is this just fantasy" - nah, boring, get shot of that.

"Mama just killed a man" - yeah leave that line in. Take the rest of that bit out.

Opera section? Nah, boring, take that out.

"So you think you can stop me" - yeah, leave that in, that's quite good.

The ending?, nah too slow, take it out.

What's left? 53 seconds, yeah that'll do.

Now, about this "Stairway to Heaven".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2014 at 13:36
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Well, most of these modern 3 min Pop songs are too long for me too LOL
. True, with the music they're talking, about we'd all get iPod fatigue. Maybe people are just getting tired of crap? It's a nice thought.

Edited by HackettFan - August 08 2014 at 23:01
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2014 at 07:42
Originally posted by PrognosticMind PrognosticMind wrote:

JD pretty much nailed it up above. News like this is why I'm incredibly cynical towards the consumption of art/media via outlets like radio. Catering to people's dwindling attention spans is doing less and less to help the human race IMHO.
 
LOL!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2014 at 07:43
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Well, most of these modern 3 min Pop songs are too long for me too LOL
. True, with the music they're talking, about we'd all get iPod fatigue. Maybe people are just getting tired of crap? It's a nice thought.
 
LOL !
 
Note: please forget my previous message. I press the wrong 'quote'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2014 at 08:42
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Here's a link to a recent NPR story:
http://www.npr.org/2014/08/07/338606558/your-favorite-songs-abridged

A radio programming executive in Calgary thinks today's songs (3-5 minutes!) are too long. He wants to redefine what listeners want by playing only songs that he/his outfit has edited for length. No, I don't live under a rock. I've heard the results of such editing done before on the radio, but to hear such blatantly Orwellian goals laid out so programmatically and undisguised was new for me. Comments?


Man, what's with Calgary.  First they give the world Nickelback, and now this yutz.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2014 at 08:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2014 at 09:28
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

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A radio programming executive in Calgary thinks today's songs (3-5 minutes!) are too long. He wants to redefine what listeners want by playing only songs that he/his outfit has edited for length. No, I don't live under a rock. I've heard the results of such editing done before on the radio, but to hear such blatantly Orwellian goals laid out so programmatically and undisguised was new for me. Comments?
 
Just another commercial puppet!
 
And we're too stupid to trash him and put him in his place. Besides, all he is doing is picking up the young girls at his station to make his ego ... errrr  (something else!) ... bigger!
 
So the girls he picks up are too stupid to listen to music? For real?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2014 at 12:50
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Who listens to the radio?
 
That's a good question.
I only turn the radio on in the car if I forget to take cd;s with me.
 
None of my kids listen to the radio but play songs on their various devices.
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