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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2014 at 10:21
Originally posted by Archeus Archeus wrote:

Originally posted by peril912 peril912 wrote:

Here's my list which doesn't include crap stuff like Discipline.

How is Discipline crap? Shocked

You can look at his post in general and come to the conclusion he has no idea what he's talking about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2014 at 13:04
I'll try to limit myself one per artist, otherwise I'll just list every Steven Wilson album

Gazpacho - Night
Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet
No Man - Together We're Stranger
maudlin of the Well - Bath/Leaving Your Body Map
Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit
Ulver - Perdition City
Marillion - Marbles
Dream Theater - Images and Words
Riverside - Second Life Syndrome
Pink Floyd - Animals
Ayreon - Human Equation
Pain of Salvation - Perfect Element
Anathema - Weather Systems

Ones I'm loving right now, but it's too soon to tell if they'll stand the test of time.

iamthemorning - Belighted
Musk Ox - Woodfall

It's been a while since I seriously listened to prog, and since I've been to this site. I'm sure I'll post more as I think of them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2014 at 11:24
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

I find you pointed out very well the presence of those prog elements in their works, but in my point of view just a few prog-related songs are not enough to consider them as being part of a whole prog albums. One could also argue the same about 'Tommy' by The Who, or Queen's debut album, or 'Revolver' by The Beatles. And if we drill further we find out other very well known bands and artists showing clear prog influences, Black Sabbath and David Bowie for instance, and also from the 80's - Radiohead. But none I would call 'prog rock' bands (or artists) as they have never released a single real prog album imo.

This really is a topic that could be written on for hours... It also really is open for debate. There are those who call those particular albums prog, and then there are ones who don't. Sure, none of them are prog artists, but that is not to say they didn't do prog. Every instrumentally capable band from the 70s has had their share of prog, in my opinion, and some of them made a song or two that could be called "prog", while some had so much prog in their albums that those may as well be called prog albums.

Tommy was, in my opinion, a prog album just like Quadrophenia; I just didn't mention it because I think Quadrophenia is a truer masterpiece. The other albums you mentioned, just like Led Zeppelin's Houses of the Holy, are rock albums that had some prog in them (though Revolver is mostly psychedelic, really).

I'll open up a forum thread about this, since there does seem to be a lot of potential for a debate and I'd like to hear others' opinions on the matter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2014 at 15:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2014 at 17:59
Yes - CTTE and Going For The One
King Crimson - In the Court and Red
Genesis - Foxtrot and Selling England
Magma - MDK
VDGG - Pawn Hearts
PFM - Stati Di Immaginazione and Per Un Amico
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Pink Floyd - Wall, DSOTM, WYWH and Animals

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Cardiacs - Sing To God
Spratleys Japs - Pony
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2014 at 21:46
I know I'm about a month late but what the hell

IQ-The Road of Bones
Rush-Hemispheres
Dream Theater-Images and Words
Opeth-Stillife
The Mars Volta-De-loused In The Comatorium
Vienna Circle-White Clouds
Spock's Beard-Snow
Anathema-Judgement
Maudlin Of The Well-Part The Second
Karnivool-Sound Awake
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2014 at 23:33
Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

Yes - Fragile (no one else took it so)
Rush - Hemispheres (some people here already chose the 2 big ones in their discography so i went with this one)
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (considered to be the first official prog album)
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (really...)
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (prog magazine considered it on the ballet, unless ALOT of people voted as one as it was kind of high on the results; plus its my favorite ever, did i already say that or is that just me?? xD)
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (anyone disagree?)

Fragile: I guess you beat me to the punch :) .. and I agree that the DSOTM is the Pink Floyd greatest masterpiece, although I consider the Gilmour-era AMLOR esthetically more refined.

I'd like to better understand the concept of ITCOCK being "considered" the first official prog album .. how about Sgt. Pepper you mentioned 2 lines below? And the likes of Procol Harum and Moody Blues. 

Since you mentioned Genesis: I enjoy some of the great music they made in the 70s and into the 80s, but I don't particularly like any of their full albums. 

Now then, my Top 10 chef d'oeuvre of "prog" (less fusion) list be .. 

Fragile 
Viljans Öga
Red
DSOTM (Waters PF)
AMLOR (Gilmour PF)
Snow Goose
FOABP
Fish Out of Water
Scheherezade
Sgt. Pepper
  
In no particular order
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 22 2014 at 21:40
About the only ones I'd call masterpieces are:
Gong - YOU
Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh
Zappa - Joe's Garage

But there are plenty of great albums:
Zappa - everything else he did
Gong - everything else they did
Magma - everything else they did
Jefferson something - Blows Against the Empire
Curved Air - Air Cut
Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
Hawkwind - Warrior On The Edge Of Time
Genesis - Foxtrot
Rennaisance - Turn Of The Cards
Hadouk Trio - Shamanimal
Yes - Close to the Edge
Starcastle - Fountains Of Light
Amon Duul II - Wolf City
Ozric Tentacles - pick any one - they're all good
If - If (perhaps not progressive?)
lots more......


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2014 at 22:06
Second edition of my actualized Prog Rock Artists Masterpiece List:
 
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Trilogy
Keith Emerson - The Keith Emerson Band: Three Fates Project
Steve Hackett - Metamorpheus
Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings
Steve Hackett - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Steve Hackett - Beyond The Shrouded Horizon
The Nice - Five Bridges
Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions
Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Locanda delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Le Orme - Collage
Triumvirat - Spartacus
Triumvirat - Mediterranean Tales
Triumvirat - Illusions On A Double Dimple
Camel - Dust and Dreams
Camel - The Snow Goose
Vangelis - The Music of Cosmos
Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII
Aphrodite's Child - 666
The Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed
Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes
Neuschwanstein - Battlement
Unreal City - La Crudelta Di Aprile
 
Still very much to know from the classics, the first ten in my whishlist that I haven't yet dig into: Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator, Tangerine Dream, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, Quella Vecchia Locanda, Goblin, King Crimson, Palepoli, Franco Battiato, Pekka Pohjola, and still know little of Keith Emerson's solo work, The Nice, The Enid, Par Lindh Project, and Pell Mell.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2014 at 02:44
Great list Rick. Clap

You also should check out the Dutch band Kayak. Royal Bed Bouncer and Kayak II are the best starting points. They also have a new album coming out soon which I can't wait to get my hands on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2014 at 18:40
Hey thanks Richardh! And I'm just reminding that you were the only one here who suggested the awesome Par Lindh Project!
 
Btw I've listened to that YouTube link of Kayak - 'Relics From A Distant Age' - man you're damn right about it - a stunning piano playing! And I've just known some Kayak's pretty cool music - as you suggested, I just listened to 'Trust In The Machine' and 'They Get To Know Me' (both from Kayak II), awesome tracks Thumbs Up, and the final parts of them just impressed me even more!, I'm gonna check them out asap too. Great suggestion again! Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2014 at 01:37
Par Lindh is too often overlooked. Nice to have another supporter on board.Smile

Kayak's first four albums are the best (up to Last Encore) , alll 4 star albums at least with the two I mentioned being masterpeices imo. Also Kayak II and Royal Bed Bouncer have both been reissued recently.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2014 at 17:52
Originally posted by Siren05 Siren05 wrote:

Hey, I'm a new member here and am just learing how this all works but I thought I would like to contribute to this forum and post up my list of 'masterpiece' prog albums. I'm interpreting this as albums that changed the game or broke ground not necessarily my favourite albums.
Not in order...One album per artist

King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Genesis - Foxtrot
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Yes - Fragile
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
Can - Tago Mago
Caravan - In The Land of Grey and Pink
Soft Machine - Third
Camel - Mirage
Gentle Giant - Octopus
Aphrodites Child - 666
Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
NEU! - NEU!
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2014 at 19:37
Originally posted by Argonaught Argonaught wrote:

Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

Yes - Fragile (no one else took it so)
Rush - Hemispheres (some people here already chose the 2 big ones in their discography so i went with this one)
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (considered to be the first official prog album)
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (really...)
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (prog magazine considered it on the ballet, unless ALOT of people voted as one as it was kind of high on the results; plus its my favorite ever, did i already say that or is that just me?? xD)
Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (anyone disagree?)

Fragile: I guess you beat me to the punch :) .. and I agree that the DSOTM is the Pink Floyd greatest masterpiece, although I consider the Gilmour-era AMLOR esthetically more refined.

I'd like to better understand the concept of ITCOCK being "considered" the first official prog album .. how about Sgt. Pepper you mentioned 2 lines below? And the likes of Procol Harum and Moody Blues. 

Since you mentioned Genesis: I enjoy some of the great music they made in the 70s and into the 80s, but I don't particularly like any of their full albums. 

Now then, my Top 10 chef d'oeuvre of "prog" (less fusion) list be .. 

Fragile 
Viljans Öga
Red
DSOTM (Waters PF)
AMLOR (Gilmour PF)
Snow Goose
FOABP
Fish Out of Water
Scheherezade
Sgt. Pepper
  
In no particular order

i think all of the concepts that make up prog rock officially came together on In the Court, with some only some of them appearing on Sgt. Pepper; pre-prog, might i say. Pet Sounds might've been the real one that started to have it, at least in the instrumentation. oh, and for Gilmour-led Floyd, TDB over Lapse any day of the week.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2014 at 20:05
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

This is my Prog Rock Artists Masterpiece List:
 
Steve Hackett - Metamorpheus
Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings
Steve Hackett - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Steve Hackett - Beyond The Shrouded Horizon
Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Locanda delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Triumvirat - Spartacus
Triumvirat - Mediterranean Tales
Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes
Camel - Dust and Dreams
Vangelis - The Music of Cosmos
Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII
The Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Unreal City - La Crudelta Di Aprile
Neuschwanstein - Battlement
Willowglass - The Dream Harbour
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
 
The list of course forever changes as the does the music, in other words music is my life.
 


very nice.   Music is indeed the soundtrack to my life

Here is a tossing off of a list myself. Starting with the big 5

ELP- typical ELP. There masterpiece IMO was the debut album. All  the strengths of the group shown, none of the weaknesses. It is the reason they rocketed to forefore of the prog rock movement and ended up becoming one of the biggest groups in the world. It was this album that ... and more .. that first side.. even the debut song on their first album is still today the single greatest album opener likely ever done. Massive and blunt force trauma.

Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans.  Funny case. Not their best album but it was their undisputed masterpiece. They built up to this, using their best album as a stepping stone and slowly went down hill over the next 40 years haha.  Masterpiece does not mean best. Not in case like Yes who had a real mission to push the boundries.

speaking of that....

K.C - Jesus. I am not really a fan.. but it is impossible to pick a masterpiece when the group fundementally changes every couple of albums.  The Discipline album is great, but an obvious reaction to what the Talking Heads were doing so it loses points there.  the Wetton era was beloved but such a small part of what they really were. So I suppose it has to go to the debut album. Even the haters of the group, few as they might be, have to acknowledge its impact and lasting appeal.

Genesis - hahahah
Selling England by the Pound.  They finally had enough sense to let loose the one musical component they had in Steve Hacket.  What an incredible display he put on with this album, and it always features the ONLY thing Tony Banks ever put on tape that is worth listening to. His solo on Cinema Show. wow.

Pink Floyd- DSOTM
no brainer.. no revisionism allowed there. It is and will forever be there masterpiece

some quicky till death do us part personal favs.
Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die. 
Amon Duul II - YETI!!!!!!!!!
Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Supertramp - Breakfast in America.
Can - Future Days Heart
PFM - l'Isola di Niente!
Banco - Darwin
Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza
Osanna- duh... Palepoli

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 02:09
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

This is my Prog Rock Artists Masterpiece List:
 
Steve Hackett - Metamorpheus
Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings
Steve Hackett - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Steve Hackett - Beyond The Shrouded Horizon
Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Locanda delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Triumvirat - Spartacus
Triumvirat - Mediterranean Tales
Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes
Camel - Dust and Dreams
Vangelis - The Music of Cosmos
Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII
The Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Unreal City - La Crudelta Di Aprile
Neuschwanstein - Battlement
Willowglass - The Dream Harbour
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
 
The list of course forever changes as the does the music, in other words music is my life.
 


very nice.   Music is indeed the soundtrack to my life

Here is a tossing off of a list myself. Starting with the big 5

ELP- typical ELP. There masterpiece IMO was the debut album. All  the strengths of the group shown, none of the weaknesses. It is the reason they rocketed to forefore of the prog rock movement and ended up becoming one of the biggest groups in the world. It was this album that ... and more .. that first side.. even the debut song on their first album is still today the single greatest album opener likely ever done. Massive and blunt force trauma.

Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans.  Funny case. Not their best album but it was their undisputed masterpiece. They built up to this, using their best album as a stepping stone and slowly went down hill over the next 40 years haha.  Masterpiece does not mean best. Not in case like Yes who had a real mission to push the boundries.

speaking of that....

K.C - Jesus. I am not really a fan.. but it is impossible to pick a masterpiece when the group fundementally changes every couple of albums.  The Discipline album is great, but an obvious reaction to what the Talking Heads were doing so it loses points there.  the Wetton era was beloved but such a small part of what they really were. So I suppose it has to go to the debut album. Even the haters of the group, few as they might be, have to acknowledge its impact and lasting appeal.

Genesis - hahahah
Selling England by the Pound.  They finally had enough sense to let loose the one musical component they had in Steve Hacket.  What an incredible display he put on with this album, and it always features the ONLY thing Tony Banks ever put on tape that is worth listening to. His solo on Cinema Show. wow.

Pink Floyd- DSOTM
no brainer.. no revisionism allowed there. It is and will forever be there masterpiece

some quicky till death do us part personal favs.
Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die. 
Amon Duul II - YETI!!!!!!!!!
Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Supertramp - Breakfast in America.
Can - Future Days Heart
PFM - l'Isola di Niente!
Banco - Darwin
Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza
Osanna- duh... Palepoli



Just on the subject of ELP there is an argument that none of their albums are masterpieces so generally people pick their favourite album by then. Works Volume One was meant to be their masterpiece and the one that displayed them as they really were. Putting aside any issues of taste ( ie most people hate Greg Lake/Pete Sinfield ballads) is there anything actually wrong with this album?

Pirates - arguably the best symphonic track ELP ever recorded. Its a beautifullly played and composed piece
Fanfare For The Common Man - Great fusion track showcasing the Yammy better than anyone else ever did
Keith Emerson - Piano Concerto No1 - WOW! a properly played and recorded classic piece of music that has been showcased on BBC Radio 3. Surely an endorsement?
Greg Lake - OK this is the tricky side. Lend You Love To Me Tonight is Greg in full on cheesey ballad form but his baritone never sounded better. Cest La Vie - can we claim this as French Folk Prog? Oh go on.Tongue Nobody Love You Like I do is maybe the weakest song but quite catchy. Hallowed By Thy Name is an interesting song with decent lyrics, The last track Closer To Believing s one that I love to play occasionally. Sinfield was quite proud of this song and I feel it captures romantic lyrical imagery perfectly. OK none of this is prog but none of it is too cheesey bar the opening track. Does it drag the album down and also does this really need to be prog?
Carl Palmer's side is the most interesting on the album moving between jazz , fusion and a bit of classical percussion.
Putting aside the question of whether Lake's side is 'prog' ( it isn't I know) Works is probably ELP's most consistent album and has enough highs to be considered a masterpiece if all these other albums are deemed as such.

On the subject of the big five 

Selling England By The Pound - don't like Epping Forest.Sorry for me that drags this album down quite a bit
DSOTM - never been a fan of this album ever since I first heard it on 1977. But I've seen it played live by Waters and that was very enjoyable.
TFTO- Its growing on me a lot but GFTO was probably their masterpiece although not my favourite
King Crimson - RedSmile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 10:09
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Second edition of my actualized Prog Rock Artists Masterpiece List:
 
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Trilogy
Keith Emerson - The Keith Emerson Band: Three Fates Project
Steve Hackett - Metamorpheus
Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings
Steve Hackett - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Steve Hackett - Beyond The Shrouded Horizon
The Nice - Five Bridges
Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions
Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Locanda delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Le Orme - Collage
Triumvirat - Spartacus
Triumvirat - Mediterranean Tales
Triumvirat - Illusions On A Double Dimple
Camel - Dust and Dreams
Camel - The Snow Goose
Vangelis - The Music of Cosmos
Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII
Aphrodite's Child - 666
The Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed
Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes
Neuschwanstein - Battlement
Unreal City - La Crudelta Di Aprile
 
Still very much to know from the classics, the first ten in my whishlist that I haven't yet dig into: Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator, Tangerine Dream, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, Quella Vecchia Locanda, Goblin, King Crimson, Palepoli, Franco Battiato, Pekka Pohjola, and still know little of Keith Emerson's solo work, The Nice, The Enid, Par Lindh Project, and Pell Mell.

 
Adding Emerson, Lake & Palmer -s/t,it could NEVER miss here!
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 10:12
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

This is my Prog Rock Artists Masterpiece List:
 
Steve Hackett - Metamorpheus
Steve Hackett - Spectral Mornings
Steve Hackett - A Midsummer Night's Dream
Steve Hackett - Beyond The Shrouded Horizon
Stephen Caudel - Wine Dark Sea
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Locanda delle Fate - Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Più
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Triumvirat - Spartacus
Triumvirat - Mediterranean Tales
Eloy - Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes
Camel - Dust and Dreams
Vangelis - The Music of Cosmos
Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII
The Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Unreal City - La Crudelta Di Aprile
Neuschwanstein - Battlement
Willowglass - The Dream Harbour
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
 
The list of course forever changes as the does the music, in other words music is my life.
 


very nice.   Music is indeed the soundtrack to my life

Here is a tossing off of a list myself. Starting with the big 5

ELP- typical ELP. There masterpiece IMO was the debut album. All  the strengths of the group shown, none of the weaknesses. It is the reason they rocketed to forefore of the prog rock movement and ended up becoming one of the biggest groups in the world. It was this album that ... and more .. that first side.. even the debut song on their first album is still today the single greatest album opener likely ever done. Massive and blunt force trauma.

Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans.  Funny case. Not their best album but it was their undisputed masterpiece. They built up to this, using their best album as a stepping stone and slowly went down hill over the next 40 years haha.  Masterpiece does not mean best. Not in case like Yes who had a real mission to push the boundries.

speaking of that....

K.C - Jesus. I am not really a fan.. but it is impossible to pick a masterpiece when the group fundementally changes every couple of albums.  The Discipline album is great, but an obvious reaction to what the Talking Heads were doing so it loses points there.  the Wetton era was beloved but such a small part of what they really were. So I suppose it has to go to the debut album. Even the haters of the group, few as they might be, have to acknowledge its impact and lasting appeal.

Genesis - hahahah
Selling England by the Pound.  They finally had enough sense to let loose the one musical component they had in Steve Hacket.  What an incredible display he put on with this album, and it always features the ONLY thing Tony Banks ever put on tape that is worth listening to. His solo on Cinema Show. wow.

Pink Floyd- DSOTM
no brainer.. no revisionism allowed there. It is and will forever be there masterpiece

some quicky till death do us part personal favs.
Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die. 
Amon Duul II - YETI!!!!!!!!!
Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Supertramp - Breakfast in America.
Can - Future Days Heart
PFM - l'Isola di Niente!
Banco - Darwin
Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza
Osanna- duh... Palepoli


 
WOW!.. Yours indeed are such a wise thoughts, at least for me, so damn right about ELP's debut, no more appropriate words for it: "even the debut song on their first album is still today the single greatest album opener likely ever done. Massive and blunt force trauma." Yeahh!  And what a bombastic energy bursting on this track! Besides an incredible strenght in Knife Edge too, Palmer drums are at his best ! These awesome pieces along with Take a Pebble have been growing in me a lot recently, when I posted the first list I was not yet familiar neither with Trilogy nor with their debut album - you are all right! This is a helluva masterpiece in spite of all that has been said about 'lack of cohesiveness' and 'lack of consistency'.
 
To be honest I think that my list likely is fairly inconsistent in terms of masterpieces, 'cause I end up selecting my most favourite prog albums, and thinking better ELP's s/t could never miss here. Thumbs Up

Have you already listened to the orchestrated version of The Endless Enigma featured on the Three Fates Project? God what a fantastic track!! This one alone is enough for me to put this album amongst my personal faves till death do us part! hahahah, well any damned version of Endless Enigma for sure takes the hell out of me, and the same I would say about Karn Evil 9 too.

Yeah DSOTM is amazing too! I have to agree with you even if my fave keeps being AHM.



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Just on the subject of ELP there is an argument that none of their albums are masterpieces so generally people pick their favourite album by then. Works Volume One was meant to be their masterpiece and the one that displayed them as they really were. Putting aside any issues of taste ( ie most people hate Greg Lake/Pete Sinfield ballads) is there anything actually wrong with this album?

Pirates - arguably the best symphonic track ELP ever recorded. Its a beautifullly played and composed piece
Fanfare For The Common Man - Great fusion track showcasing the Yammy better than anyone else ever did
Keith Emerson - Piano Concerto No1 - WOW! a properly played and recorded classic piece of music that has been showcased on BBC Radio 3. Surely an endorsement?
Greg Lake - OK this is the tricky side. Lend You Love To Me Tonight is Greg in full on cheesey ballad form but his baritone never sounded better. Cest La Vie - can we claim this as French Folk Prog? Oh go on.Tongue Nobody Love You Like I do is maybe the weakest song but quite catchy. Hallowed By Thy Name is an interesting song with decent lyrics, The last track Closer To Believing s one that I love to play occasionally. Sinfield was quite proud of this song and I feel it captures romantic lyrical imagery perfectly. OK none of this is prog but none of it is too cheesey bar the opening track. Does it drag the album down and also does this really need to be prog?
Carl Palmer's side is the most interesting on the album moving between jazz , fusion and a bit of classical percussion.
Putting aside the question of whether Lake's side is 'prog' ( it isn't I know) Works is probably ELP's most consistent album and has enough highs to be considered a masterpiece if all these other albums are deemed as such.
 

Hey very interesting comments about Works Volume One! I don't own yet this album but it would be really nice put the hands on it. I've known the amazing Pirates just played live in the Royal Albert Hall, and it would be great if I got its lyrics as I found it quite interesting, but so far I can't find it in the Internet unfortunately.
 
Damned how on earth could I leave unnoticed Keith Emerson - Piano Concerto No1? Cry


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