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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2014 at 07:44
KC are not a great favourite of mine but my copy of Islands is one I treasure for sure.

Also it must have one of my favourite album covers of all time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2014 at 13:05
easily in my top 10 favorite albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2014 at 16:51
Not my fav by any means,but couldn't call it trash....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2014 at 21:19
I absolutely hated this album when I first bought it on cassette around late 1985. I think it was the first KC album I bought or heard all the way through and it almost turned the band off for me. I still never bought it on cd. At some point it did grow on me a bit though. I especially like "sailors tale" and "ladies of the road." The title track is quite nice also.  So for me maybe somewhere in between treasure and trash but these days much closer to treasure. When I first heard it though I'd say I would have thought it much closer to trash.Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2014 at 22:23
Better than it's two predecessors.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2014 at 12:25
Definitely my least favorite of the studio albums through Red but I wouldn't call it trash. Gave it a spin recently just because I so rarely play the thing and actually enjoyed it. Will I go to Islands more often now? Probably not but I would still call it a good album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2014 at 11:01
One of those "in limbo" efforts between great line-ups for the band. Ian Wallace was certainly special on the recording, Boz's singing on Ladies of the Road was entertaining, and Fripp's playing was solid, but the thing didn't gel as a whole.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2014 at 11:41
it's a good album, so neither
what's impressive is that it takes place at a very low ebb for the band yet they turn it into a strength
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2014 at 23:57
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

I love Islands, but I can certainly understand not everyone being able to appreciate it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2014 at 01:23
Teasure treasure treasure ......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2014 at 02:40
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Greatest thing KC ever did
True enough about the B side.  A-Side is trash.

The 2nd side's better, but that solo on Sailor's Tale is awesome (plus the lyrics on the other 2 tracks are pretty great).

A-side is trash??? The one with Sailor's Tale? And how can someone who likes King Crimson not love Formentera Lady?

The part that don't make it a complete KC-masterpiece to me are the two pastiches that opens the b-side. The Beatle-like mess that is Ladies of the Road is fun enough but hardly essential and the psuedo-classical Prelude: Song of the Gulls is pretty but lacks any kind of identity. The latter tune is bit of a waysted opportunity to create some genuinely Bartok-inspired chamber music.

- If the one bonus track that's not simply an alternative take on the 40th anniversary edition A Peacemaking Stint Unrolls had opened the original b-side it would have added just the right amount of bite to my tastes. But all King Crimson 69-74 is art for the ages, the album is as it is and I'm not complaining, really. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2014 at 12:55
Well, to me this is a very good album, but it suffers from the comparison with other KC releases at the time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2014 at 06:23
Poseidon, Lizard and Island are interesting albums, but not in the same genre and league with the LTIA, SABB and Red. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2014 at 06:26
^Not even the same genre?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2014 at 08:14
^ not to my ear. My definition of musical genres is based on what a certain composition sounds/feels like rather than on a set of "rules" that are often artificial, arbitrary and contradictory. If I had to pigeon-hole them, the Islands wouold be neo-romantic classical, while the 1973-74 stuff is avant-guard(ish) jazz rock.  

If you knew nothing about Progarchives or the history of King Crimson, you would probably never guess that the Islands and LTIA were even made by the same band, literally within a couple of years from each other. And of course "the same band" is largely meaningless, because at that time Fripp was evolving in leaps and bounds, and there were 2 or 3 lineup changes between 1969 and 1973. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2014 at 08:30
^ To me its just the sound of a genuine progressive rock band evolving. Sure there's larger portions of harder, darker and dissonant material LTIA than Islands, but the former got its Exiles and Book of Saturday and the latter its Sailor's Tale. I never ever had any difficulty recognizing a 69-74 KC-album as a KC-album.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2014 at 13:36
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Neither but still better than 'In The Wake of Poseidon' in my opinion.


ITWOP is good until you realise the thing is almost a carbon copy of the first album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2014 at 13:56
Originally posted by matty3198 matty3198 wrote:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Neither but still better than 'In The Wake of Poseidon' in my opinion.


ITWOP is good until you realise the thing is almost a carbon copy of the first album.

This fact botters me so much that I've never been able to like it. Confused
Didn't they notice that?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2014 at 18:24
Treasure, better than Lizard or Poseidon, but not as good as Larks'....

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2014 at 11:44
What many people can't relate to is the concept and because the music has to follow that concept by being different from the other albums, people find it dull. Why would someone be personally interested in Islands and find it to be the ultimate Crimson release? I believe it has to do with the person's interest in the ocean's lifeforce and the overall history of events which took place on the sea centuries ago. I believe Islands attracts the interest of people who are fascinated with the Island life/environment. For example: I've always listened to Islands on the beach , watching the tides, glancing at the sky and drifting into a fantasy novel about pirates or whatever? I want to visit Pitcarin Island and listen to Islands. As I've stated before, many musicians in the early 70's physically placed themselves in a situation with nature. Wrote on a specific subject having directly to do with a landscape, the ocean...and included musically and lyrically.. a vision of this place...by re-tracing it's history, or it's position in the modern day...or choosing to write fantasy unlike anyone else. 
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