The English language/vocabulary/verbal phrases |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 00:39 |
I saw these two words in a car sales ad: whippersnapper and geezer.
More: flatline.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 22 2014 at 01:41 |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 20:35 |
For non-native English speakers ... and there may be some who don't know this - fewer vs. less.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 21:01 |
OK, I'm looking for a word. Let's say I want to emphasize the fact that Jack is putting his words in my mouth, but Jack says I'm putting my words into his, which is not true. Or let's say that I stated that he is a troll; but Jack says I'm a troll, which is not true. What is Jack doing? I'm looking for one word for that. Noun or verb or adjective, doesn't matter.
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Dean
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 21:12 |
You mean parroting?
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 21:18 |
^ Ah! Didn't know there was a verb (to parrot) like that ... even though the word itself doesn't sound like it goes to the root and emphasizes the intentions of the parrot-er. This sounds like something more than just a simple repetition, but also turns what the original user said back at him, an act that's quite bewildering.
Thanks.
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Kirillov
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Posted: September 24 2014 at 02:33 |
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^ Re: Geezer The origin of Terry 'Geezer' Butler's nickname Edited by Kirillov - September 24 2014 at 02:38 |
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Dean
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Posted: September 24 2014 at 05:07 |
Geezer means odd or eccentric and is more often prefixed with the word "old" and in "old geezer" (an old man) or with "diamond" as in "diamond geezer" (a great bloke) so it is synonymous with man, chap or bloke. According to etymology online it comes from "guiser" which is related to "disguiser" (one who wears a disguise or mask) and is related to "mummer" (a player or actor, as in a mummer play). I guess that people who dressed up in plays were considered to be odd or eccentric. for example: Edited by Dean - September 24 2014 at 05:10 |
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Dean
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Posted: September 24 2014 at 07:12 |
^ Thinking on it some more, I suspect the more accurate meaning of geezer is "character" as we often describe an eccentric person as being "a bit of a character" or "a right character". This makes sense when we consider the guiser or mummer explanation since an actor is playing a character in a play.
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zachfive
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Posted: September 25 2014 at 01:51 |
This might help you, it is not the exact situation you describe but should be close enough. http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/40462/is-there-a-name-for-someone-who-calls-someone-else-what-he-himself-is I found that site by searching "Single word for Pot Calling the Kettle Black" the idiom used to describe a similar situation to the one you presented. Here is that link http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/45205/pot-calling-the-kettle-black-but-what-if-the-kettle-isnt-black-figurativ Basically the word(s) you are looking for is Psychological Projection or Psychological Bias - which the website describes as being a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts and emotions; which are then ascribed to the outside world, or other party. Edit: Hypocrite was the first word that came to mind but just didn't seem to fit the situation either...
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 25 2014 at 01:55 |
^ Ah! Thanks. This just may be what I was looking for.
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Kati
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Posted: September 25 2014 at 01:59 |
it's called counter accusation |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 25 2014 at 11:31 |
^ That could also work.
So, we have: 1) parroting, 2) psychological projection (psychological bias), and 3) counter-accusation.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 26 2014 at 00:53 |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: September 26 2014 at 00:50 |
Dyspeptic, bildungsroman, screed, crank2.
Also, when looking up "barrister", I've found out there's a difference between a lawyer and an ... oh. And two more things I didn't know about "stewed".
Edited by Dayvenkirq - September 26 2014 at 01:08 |
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Argonaught
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Posted: October 01 2014 at 21:58 |
Bildungsroman is doppelpluskühl.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 02 2014 at 01:14 |
^ Yeah, it's words as unpopular/obscure as that one that intrigue me about how we have built and expanded the English language, including bringing foreign words into it.
By the way, Google gave me nothing on "doppelpluskühl". Is that a Germanic slang fusion you came up with?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 02 2014 at 01:25 |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 22:42 |
Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 09 2014 at 10:48 |
Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 11 2014 at 08:44 |
Bonus points for an entirely crazy opening for this thread and getting lots of comments.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 11 2014 at 10:43 |
^ At first I thought "Crazy?"; then I looked at my OP, and I think I see what you are saying. ... but "entirely crazy"?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 12 2014 at 05:37 |
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 13 2014 at 12:51 |
Maladious, onager (not just the Roman siege engine), torque vs. torsion, emoji, down for the count.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 13 2014 at 20:41 |
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