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Posted: February 12 2015 at 19:14
presdoug wrote:
Padraic wrote:
presdoug wrote:
The last three symphonies of Anton Bruckner, No. 7,8,9. Monumental and lyrical, he was the true inheritor of Beethoven 's symphonic mantle. Dark but spiritual in the same breath.
I heard the first movement of Bruckner's 8th on the way to work this morning - it was excellent!
Great! Wait til you hear the rest of it, the restless scherzo, the monumental adagio, and architectonic finale. Every note of that work speaks to me.
There's a box set of the complete symphonies with von Karajan...on my amazon wish list it goes
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Posted: February 12 2015 at 20:18
Raff wrote:
Smetana - Ma Vlast (the whole cycle) Grieg - Peer Gynt
I've got the recording of the amazing Ma Vlast by Berliner Philharmoniker and conducted by a especialist on that composer: FERENC FRICSAY, it's awesome ! one of my beloved classical pieces. Hell yeah
Great Grieg composition, but just as with Micky, E. Grieg - Concert for Piano & Orchestra Op.16 is perhaps my long time favourite from this great composer!
Edited by Rick Robson - February 12 2015 at 20:19
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Posted: February 12 2015 at 20:33
Here I give a honourable mention to a quite interesting article that brilliantly explains the varied, diverse ways of performing a little but great classical Chopin's composition, though not in its entirety - lacks the final part and its climax. Such a great experience listening to this accessible and even kind of simple piece, but of utterly profound impact in my soul, being performed by 5 renowned and stunning classical pianists - one of them, Rosenthal, got some training from one of Chopin's pupils:
For whom it might concern, this article also helps to realize the differences and the difficulties found by a performer when performing classical piano music on the modern keyboards. One view that is often taken is that early Romantics classical composers such as Chopin, Schumann etc. (but even still later composers), were dissatisfied with their pianos, and in fact were writing visionary "music of the future" with a more robust sound in mind. This view is perhaps plausible in the case of Beethoven, who composed at the beginning of the era of piano growth. However, many aspects of earlier music can be mentioned suggesting that it was composed very much with contemporary instruments in mind.
It is these aspects that raise the greatest difficulties when a performer attempts to render earlier works on a modern instrument: the modern piano, for example, has a considerably greater sustain time than the classical-era piano. Thus, notes played in accompaniment lines will stay loud longer, and thus cover up any subsequent melodic notes more than they would have on the instrument that the aforementioned composers had used. This is felt to be a particular impediment to realizing the so characteristic textural clarity of Classical-era works, where lines can emerge more clearly, rapid passages and ornaments are more easily enunciated by instruments whose main purpose is not volume and power, what turns out giving them a rather different approach btw.
Edited by Rick Robson - February 12 2015 at 20:39
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Posted: February 12 2015 at 20:48
Hey JupiterIsland!
Check out this site. On the bottom is a handy "Must-Know/Must-Have" Works" list. I've have used this site's recommendations as a guideline in the past for my own interest in classical music and have found it fairly spot on. It is not all comprehensive but i have discovered a lot of great music just beginning with the list. Unfortunately classical music is extremely convoluted in how many different artists perform these works. I would love to see a site that compares the different recordings of all these works. Anyway, great place to get your feet wet. I have heard 75% of these must-have works and have not been disappointed by any.
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Posted: February 12 2015 at 22:13
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Many of my classical music favourites are well known to prog fans because they have inspired some of the classic bands of the Seventies. However, they are still worth mentioning:
Mussorgsky - Night on Bald Mountain, Pictures at an Exhibition (both the piano-only original and the Ravel-orchestrated version) Rimsky-Korsakov - Scheherazade Stravinsky - Rite of Spring Orff - Carmina Burana Smetana - Ma Vlast (the whole cycle) Grieg - Peer Gynt De Falla - El Amor Brujo Ravel - Bolero Debussy - Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun Dvorak - New World Symphony
To those who love choral music, I would also warmly recommend late Renaissance composers of polyphonic music such as Orlando di Lasso, Tomas Luis da Victoria and, of course, our very own Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina.
Excellent, evocative list, Raff. I would add:
Prokofiev - Scythian Suite
Saint-Saëns - Danse Macabre
Mozart - Requiem in D minor
Vivaldi - L'inverno
Bach - Toccata and Fugue in D minor, Bouree in E minor, Brandenburg Concerto #3
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Posted: February 13 2015 at 06:54
Padraic wrote:
presdoug wrote:
Padraic wrote:
presdoug wrote:
The last three symphonies of Anton Bruckner, No. 7,8,9. Monumental and lyrical, he was the true inheritor of Beethoven 's symphonic mantle. Dark but spiritual in the same breath.
I heard the first movement of Bruckner's 8th on the way to work this morning - it was excellent!
Great! Wait til you hear the rest of it, the restless scherzo, the monumental adagio, and architectonic finale. Every note of that work speaks to me.
There's a box set of the complete symphonies with von Karajan...on my amazon wish list it goes
I have the Karajan set, and you can't go wrong there.
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Posted: February 13 2015 at 09:41
In my humble opinion, you won't find any piano-driven compositions as melancholic and dark as Rachmaninovs piano concertos and preludes. Especialy I suggest listening piano concerto No. 2 in C minor, Op.18 and prelude No.2 in C sharp minor, Op.3. Also, Chopin's piano concerto No.1 in E minor, Op.11 and Liszt's Mephisto Waltz No.1 in A major are musts.
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Posted: February 21 2015 at 13:44
Chopin - Grande Polonaise Brillante in E flat major Op.22
THIS is really FANTASTIC MUSIC! It has been some while since I last listened to it, enough to bring me tears to my eyes again! Oh my... Guess I'm gonna travel
away again in a Chopin cycle...
"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB
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Posted: February 21 2015 at 13:51
Argor wrote:
In my humble opinion, you won't find any piano-driven compositions as melancholic and dark as Rachmaninovs piano concertos and preludes. Especialy I suggest listening piano concerto No. 2 in C minor, Op.18 and prelude No.2 in C sharp minor, Op.3. Also, Chopin's piano concerto No.1 in E minor, Op.11 and Liszt's Mephisto Waltz No.1 in A major are musts.
Don't know yet Rachmaninoff's preludes, that piano concerto is a great suggestion indeed, a "must have" from Rach .
That Chopin's is one of my all time favourite piano concertos, a great hit on the spot for this thread's purpose.
Edited by Rick Robson - February 21 2015 at 14:00
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Posted: February 22 2015 at 11:13
Mozart - Piano Concerto No.20 In D minor, K.466 - 2. romance Mozart - Piano Concerto No.21 In C major 'Elvira Madigan', K.467 - 2. andante Mozart - Piano Concerto No.23 In A major K.488 - 2. andante
Sometimes I have a feeling that these movements above have everything to do with Mozart himself from his own REAL life, it's Mozart's music at its purest!
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presdoug wrote:
I'm a big Bernard Herrmann fan, myself. I also like "Vertigo". Such an atmosphere he creates in his sound.
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