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    Posted: August 18 2014 at 17:43
I want to give this band a listen! Wondering where I should start, thinking Quiet Life. Or should I go ahead and listen to the debut?
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I think their best work was from Quiet Life on, especially Polaroids and Tin Drum ....but my personal favorite is their live set before they broke up.....Oil On Canvas.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2014 at 23:41
JAPAN was THE best band of that English New Wave scene (imo)...





... and released THE best album of that scene / movement (imo).




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I'd go for Gentlemen Take Polaroids. It features longer cuts and excellent ambiences.   Mick Karn's Fretless bass playing is top-notch.
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Tin Drum by an absolute mile. I don't think they were the best of their genre. Bands such as Magazine, The Cure, Echo and The Bunnymen and especially early Simple Minds were IMHO superior to Japan. 
Sylvian had that carryover Bowie chic that made Japan noticable. I don't know whether they were better than the bands that I mention above. Hmmm, I don't think they were.

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Wow !! You mention The Cure and Simple Minds. Don't know about The Bunnymen, but I always have thought that Japan were in a league of their own when it comes to unique, fresh and original 'New-Wave'. The Cure close behind, though I find Robert Smith's vocals a bit tiresome. David Sylvian has a style like Bowie crossed with Bryan Ferry. Quality all the way.
We won't mention Sylvian's more Prog efforts with CAN members and Robert Fripp that he partook in afterwards.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Svetonio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2014 at 05:51
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

(...) The Cure close behind, though I find Robert Smith's vocals a bit tiresome. (...)

I never can get Robert Smith's vocals; really tiresome to me.
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^ Yeah, the moe I hear his vocals, the more I cringe at having liked them for many years.....

I do however, think Silvian's vocals were totally spot-on for the times (better than his punky approach) and the musicianship above-average for the time.
Having said that, I did hear KAJAGOOGOO's Too Shy song today's, and there's a bit of 'slap-bass' in there, but nothing I I expected Nick Beggs to play years later....there was a lot of talent and potential in some New Wave musicians after all.


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I would start with Tin Drum. I've only heard that one and Polaroids, however, so maybe I'm not the one to ask.


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Mick Karn on Sons of Pioneers is a bass lesson! His second solo album "Dreams of Reason" is stunning! 
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Wow !! You mention The Cure and Simple Minds. Don't know about The Bunnymen, but I always have thought that Japan were in a league of their own when it comes to unique, fresh and original 'New-Wave'. The Cure close behind, though I find Robert Smith's vocals a bit tiresome. David Sylvian has a style like Bowie crossed with Bryan Ferry. Quality all the way.
We won't mention Sylvian's more Prog efforts with CAN members and Robert Fripp that he partook in afterwards.....
 
Never really cared for the Cure...but loved Simple Minds early work and all of the earlier Echo stuff.
The double set Sons and Fascination and Sister Feelings Call by Minds is superb and Heaven Up Here and Porcupine Tree by Echo is also killer material.
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http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1214/cover_1427142552012_r.jpg

best JAPAN album ever ... though released under the moniker RAIN TREE CROW ... roundabout seven years after the official band break-up

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I've given Quiet Life a few listens. I dig it! Kind of a more sophisticated New Wave sound, like Talking Heads but less experimental. I've also listened to the track Ghosts from Tin Drum, which after repeated listens I absolutely love.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Wow !! You mention The Cure and Simple Minds. Don't know about The Bunnymen, but I always have thought that Japan were in a league of their own when it comes to unique, fresh and original 'New-Wave'. The Cure close behind, though I find Robert Smith's vocals a bit tiresome. David Sylvian has a style like Bowie crossed with Bryan Ferry. Quality all the way.
We won't mention Sylvian's more Prog efforts with CAN members and Robert Fripp that he partook in afterwards.....
 
Never really cared for the Cure...but loved Simple Minds early work and all of the earlier Echo stuff.
The double set Sons and Fascination and Sister Feelings Call by Minds is superb and Heaven Up Here and Porcupine Tree by Echo is also killer material.

The obvious prog link with Simple Minds and their simultaneous dual album release i.e. Sons and Fascination and Sister Feelings Call were that they were both produced by Steve Hillage. Please prog aficionados listen to these two albums they are as good as anything that has ever been released by any artist in this world called Earth.
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Originally posted by fudgenuts64 fudgenuts64 wrote:

I've given Quiet Life a few listens. I dig it! Kind of a more sophisticated New Wave sound, like Talking Heads but less experimental. I've also listened to the track Ghosts from Tin Drum, which after repeated listens I absolutely love.

Ghosts is truly sublime. Sylvian has the nearest thing to the smoothest baritone voice in contemporary music, Scott Walker probably pips him as the greatest modern baritone singer but I really do appreciate Sylvian's delivery.
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Quiet Life, Polaroids, Tin Drum all very good..

You may want to check out Mick Karns solo stuff too. I really like Bestial Cluster.

Some of Fripps work with David Sylvian is nice too
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Please check out Sylvan's solo stuff.....great drifting stuff.  Haven't put Japan on in years....always go with a Sylvan album when in the mood for Japan.
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:


Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Wow !! You mention The Cure and Simple Minds. Don't know about The Bunnymen, but I always have thought that Japan were in a league of their own when it comes to unique, fresh and original 'New-Wave'. The Cure close behind, though I find Robert Smith's vocals a bit tiresome. David Sylvian has a style like Bowie crossed with Bryan Ferry. Quality all the way. We won't mention Sylvian's more Prog efforts with CAN members and Robert Fripp that he partook in afterwards.....

 

Never really cared for the Cure...but loved Simple Minds early work and all of the earlier Echo stuff.

The double set Sons and Fascination and Sister Feelings Call by Minds is superb and Heaven Up Here and Porcupine Tree by Echo is also killer material.

The obvious prog link with Simple Minds and their simultaneous dual album release i.e. Sons and Fascination and Sister Feelings Call were that they were both produced by Steve Hillage. Please prog aficionados listen to these two albums they are as good as anything that has ever been released by any artist in this world called Earth.
There's also an album by Real Life (they had their hit Catch Me I'm Falling) that is produced by Hillage as well. It's not bad, my sister has the LP of it.
Mike Howlett (bassist of GonG) produced an album by Fischer Z too.
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Real Life did "Send Me an Angel" , a synth-pop classic ! That Fischer Z was something too! 
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