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Posted: August 21 2014 at 03:45

I think this would make an album of about one hour (60:49) with their proggiest songs:

All You Need Is Love 3:47

Rain 3:02

Norwegian Wood 2:05

A Day in the Life 5:33

Happiness Is a Warm Gun 2:43

Strawberry Fields Forever 4:10

I Want You (She's So Heavy) 7:47

Helter Skelter 4:29

Tomorrow Never Knows 2:57

Within You Without You 5:05

Here Comes the Sun 3:05

I Am the Walrus 4:33

Revolution 9 8:22

Good Night 3:11

(I added Good Night because the transiton from Revolution 9 goes quite unnoticed)

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Posted: August 21 2014 at 10:28

musitron wrote:

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Beatles Prog Side. LOL

OK. I'm French. Sorry for the accent

I know The Beatles weren't prog. That term did not even exist until 1970. But they were the pioneers. And they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band even if they had 5 or 6 real psychedelic songs. They were more experimental and innovator to me. They were also more progressive than regressive music band.

Hi. Many of us (PA fans) love or like beatles. I start with them when I was 13-14 years old( Now I am 45). I agree with you my friend but IMO they never been a Prog Rock band or they never start Prog Rock Genre. As you said I think They are " just a psychedelic pop rock band "

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Posted: August 21 2014 at 10:31

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I moved this thread to the proto lounge:)

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Posted: August 21 2014 at 11:18

No. I said " they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band "

But I think at 45 you are still too young to understand the impact of the Beatles on the prog and music in general.

Edited by musitron - August 21 2014 at 11:20

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Posted: August 21 2014 at 13:41

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I'll admit, I'm not a huge fan of The Beatles, but however you look at things, Bruford said it perfectly. They may not be Prog per se, but surely innovative, adventurous and influential - everything a Prog band is

Well said and good quote my friend. All Hail Bartley Butsford!!!

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Posted: August 22 2014 at 04:43

musitron wrote:

No. I said " they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band "

But I think at 45 you are still too young to understand the impact of the Beatles on the prog and music in general.

Exactly; YOU HAD TO BE THERE to know exactly what impact the Beatles had on the progression of rock music. All you 30 or 40 something youngsters please take our word for it. AND HOW CAN YOU FREAKING ARGUE WITH SOMEONE AS CREDIBLE AS BILL BRUFORD!!!!

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Posted: August 22 2014 at 10:07

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No. I said " they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band "

But I think at 45 you are still too young to understand the impact of the Beatles on the prog and music in general.

Thanks. I used of part of your post to explain mine!! I know your opinion clearly. I living with "Progressive" music and fortunately my family (my wife and my children) understand me.I love Beatles but they are not a Prog Rock band (IMO). Thanks again for your time and answer.

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Posted: August 22 2014 at 12:10

Yep, they all but just about started it all (except for that little known Italian instrumental outfit around the same time).

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Posted: August 22 2014 at 13:03

No problem. I respect your opinion and i'm glad I did not offence you. Long life to rock and roll

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Posted: August 22 2014 at 23:09

Guldbamsen moved the thread to the Proto prog forum.....and rightly so since The Beatles are not a prog rock band and are indeed listed here under the Proto prog heading.

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Posted: August 23 2014 at 09:34

dr wu23 wrote:

Guldbamsen moved the thread to the Proto prog forum.....and rightly so since The Beatles are not a prog rock band and are indeed listed here under the Proto prog heading.

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Posted: August 23 2014 at 13:08

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In my opinion, there isn't a "Beatles prog side" and I think prog rock would have existed without them anyway.

Tomorrow Never knows is not Prog? Sod it all, then. I'm out of here.

Edited by SteveG - August 23 2014 at 13:12

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Posted: August 24 2014 at 09:46

I don't know why people want to call The Beatles a progressive rock band. They did some 'progressive things' with some of their music and expanded the horizons of what could be done with pop and rock in the studio.

Prog Rock...they ain't.

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Posted: August 24 2014 at 11:41

dr wu23 wrote:

I don't know why people want to call The Beatles a progressive rock band.

Who said that? But they were definitely pioneers. And for sure they were more progressive than regressive in the world of music.

Edited by musitron - August 24 2014 at 11:43

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Posted: August 24 2014 at 15:10

A Day in the Life though

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Posted: August 26 2014 at 20:04

I have to be honest but I consider "A Day in The Life" and "I Want You "She's So Heavy" as Progressive Rock.

I think certain people need to get over the fact that the same band who wrote "I Want to Hold Your Hand" transformed themselves into the most influential artist in the Progressive Rock movement. Nothing against Zappa but he did not have the wide reach as The Beatles in terms of popularity and influence. I gather more progressive rock musicians were initially influenced by The Beatles to get into music far more than Zappa.

It's no coincidence that Robert Fripp was influenced to get into rock music after hearing "A Day In The Life".

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Posted: August 26 2014 at 23:52

I heard a guy say once that "I want you/she's so heavy" is pure prog. Not sure if I agree with that although it could be considered proto. THe closest the Beatles came to typical prog imo was probably "a day in the life." TO be honest I don't think they did all that much that was similar to the later prog. Although they were very experimental at times I wouldn't really call them prog. That being said they did get the ball rolling and are important in the development of adventurous music that led directly to prog.

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Posted: August 28 2014 at 11:01

The Beatles are not truly progressive to what the main standard or true definition of what Prog music delivers, but they have a ton of well-thought out progressive tendencies to a few of their albums.
Certainly Sargent Peppers paved the way for a wonderful model of experimentation by fusing eastern cultural music backgrounds into their overall sound while creating some songs that have some incredible changes in direction. Amazing for 1967. I'd say the Beatles, when they put on their Prog hats, are really quite good at it. :)

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Posted: August 29 2014 at 09:10

If I were to compile a Beatles prog album, it might be

Because

The Inner Light

We Can Work It Out

Rain

Yellow Submarine

You Know My Name

Everywhere It's Christmas

Revolution 9 (mono)

Flying

A Day In The Life

Hey Bulldog

Strawberry fields Forever

It's All Too Much

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Posted: August 29 2014 at 09:56

Stool Man wrote:

If I were to compile a Beatles prog album, it might be

Because

The Inner Light

We Can Work It Out

Rain

Yellow Submarine

You Know My Name

Everywhere It's Christmas

Revolution 9 (mono)

Flying

A Day In The Life

Hey Bulldog

Strawberry fields Forever

It's All Too Much

Good choice on the whole, although I would argue against "We Can Work It Out" - great song but not really prog even if it does change time signatures.