Proto Marillion 76-82 = Machiavel! |
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Aragon
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Topic: Proto Marillion 76-82 = Machiavel! Posted: August 21 2014 at 03:50 |
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When the neoprog doesn't exist!!!
Could u suggest me some proto Marillion bands, like Machiavel, better in RPI or symphonic prog. I discover this band and i like the first 2 album. I love how the old sound of the '70 become more refined and use much more electronics instruments like electro piano, boombastic moog and strings. I know Camel, Zaragon and "Sensitiva Immagine". Edited by Aragon - August 21 2014 at 03:52 |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 04:23 | |
You should definitely try out Babylon's sole s/t album, an album I personally consider as one of the first albums to bear that early 'Neo prog' fingerprint. It's from 1978, so it's an early bugger too: Dreamfish
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 04:29 | |
Maybe the debut SAGA album from 1978 ??
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Aragon
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 04:32 | |
mmmm at first listen the song u posted is a bit complex for my neoprog hears...... I'll try to listen much more, although i love the singer!!! Edited by Aragon - August 21 2014 at 04:35 |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 04:45 | |
Ok, I guess I did choose the most elaborate piece of the lot. I probably should've started with this one instead, especially seeing as you really dig the vocals: The Mote in God's Eye
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 04:49 | |
Btw: I figure you already know Pablo 'El Enterrador' right? I've seen many early Neo prog afficionados drool over this album.
If not, here's a wee taste
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 05:59 | |
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fudgenuts64
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 06:48 | |
Try Genesis "A Trick of the Tail" "Wind and Wuthering and "And Then There Were Three". The later two easily could be classified as proto-neo at some points.
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The Doctor
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:34 | |
My favorite of what I would consider the proto-neo bands is a German band, Anyone's Daughter. Somewhere between W&W Genesis, Camel and early Marillion. Their first two albums are in English, their third is mostly narrated in German and the last two sung in German.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 08:39 | |
^Yes very good recommendation, I'll second that. In the same vein you'll find another German band called Amenophis. Their first album should be right up the OPs alley methinks:)
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Aragon
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 11:38 | |
Ehm sorry no Genesis, i can't get that kind of symphonic sound. Sky is a good example, good recomendation. Anyone Daugheter is good too, but it's hasn't that feeling of Machiavel that im searching. In machiavel there are much more catchy moments....they use ripetitive piano riff with a Crescendo Drums, and often the moog and the guitars create a melodic line that remain in my mind soon. Edited by Aragon - August 21 2014 at 11:52 |
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kenethlevine
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 12:58 | |
actually, I find Anyone's Daughter to be extremely catchy in a good way. Their last 2 German sung albums in particular showed a "progression" into more accessible prog - check out "In Blau" and, perhaps especially "Neu Sterne", if you have not already
You might also like LE ORME's "Verita Nascoste" or some late 1970s or early 1980s NOVALIS. Or how about ELOY "Colours", "Planets" or "Time to Turn". FM's "Black Noise" (last I looked they were classed as prog related but they are definitely crossover). While I'm not crazy about it, it seems like P'COCK "Burning beach" might work for you. I might think of some others, but let's go with these for now here's another, ZOMBY WOOF and their sole album, what a one off
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 13:24 | |
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 14:00 | |
Transparencias by MIA (1976)
[QUOTE]Formed in the mid 70s, Independent Musicians Associated (MIA) was a group of musicians, technicians and drawers gathered together by Lito and Liliana Vitale's parents. They produced their own records and concerts in an independent way. Their music is a complex symphonic rock with definite Argentinean/latin folk influence with multiple corals and vocals beautifully contrasting with the keyboards and a great guitar sound upon a strong rhythmic section. They were highly influenced by symphonic music, more noteworthy by ELP, GENTLE GIANT and FOCUS. Their debut was "Transparencias", an exquisite album of classical. Their second album was vocal oriented. Lead by Alberto Muńoz -author of the lyrics- this effort was a different approach, though still keeping the symphonic mood in the form of songs. On "Cornostipicum", MIA returned to the instrumental-symphonic rock with elaborated pieces such as "Crifana y Tamílstenes". This album is a highly recommended classic and certainly one of the best ever from Argentina. MIA's final release was a big project called "Conciertos", a 3-LP album comprising live recordings from the group's last set of shows. All of these come highly recommended, MIA were a unique musical ensemble with a definite progressive ethic. MIA official website[/QUOTE |
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 03:24 | |
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 03:41 | |
For You The Old Woman by Mirthrandir (1976)
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 22 2014 at 03:58 | |
Easy does it Svetonio. Why don't you wait a little while, so as he can get back to you on the recs you've already thrown his way?
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Aragon
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 07:05 | |
no guys...you're a bit out of the style. Im searching something like this one. Filtered and robotic voice in some parts like Rockets, melodic line at begin and hard rock structure after, nice moog solo followed by good guitars interlude and all isn't complex at all.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 07:26 | |
Did you try this one?
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 27 2014 at 21:07 | |
If foreign language does not bother you, maybe you'll like the song Prvi Sneg (engl. "First Snow") from the 1977 debut album Moje Bube (engl. "My Bugs") by ex-Yugoslavian acoustic / progressive rock ensemble SUNCOKRET (engl. "Sunfllower") The song is actually composed by Belgrade's artist Dušan Mihajlović (aka Dr.Spira, now based in London) who is already in PA. edit: Also you can try this song (engl. "Awaiting for my hit") from one and only album (engl. "World over which I walk", 1977) by NEPOČIN, ex-Yugoslavian progressive rock band. No filtered voices, though Edited by Svetonio - August 29 2014 at 02:15 |
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