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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2014 at 14:57
Originally posted by PrognosticMind PrognosticMind wrote:

If Genesis were "The Beatles" of prog...would that make Yes "The Rolling Stones"? Cool

nope King Crimson

Yes = The Beach BoysTongue

and then Pink Floyd are the Pink Floyd are progLOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2014 at 15:02
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

The Beatles turned the rock word upside down in the Sixties with all of their inventive musical styles and social fads. As my last post for PA, I would like to ask: Who do you consider to be "The Beatles" of Progressive Rock music in regards the artist's influence and popularity on Progressive Rock music?



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Floyd and Crimson probably come closest.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2014 at 15:50
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by PrognosticMind PrognosticMind wrote:

If Genesis were "The Beatles" of prog...would that make Yes "The Rolling Stones"? Cool

nope King Crimson

Yes = The Beach BoysTongue

and then Pink Floyd are the Pink Floyd are progLOL

LOL! Still an accurate comparison!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2014 at 16:29
There ain't any, and prog is just that more special because of it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2014 at 09:29
I think Mr. Parisius is right.   Even though they are not even close to being my favorite band, no band has had more influence on the core of progressive rock than Genesis.  A quick study of how many neo prog bands from the 80's revival sound like Genesis supports my assertion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2014 at 14:40
Originally posted by thwok thwok wrote:

I think Mr. Parisius is right.   Even though they are not even close to being my favorite band, no band has had more influence on the core of progressive rock than Genesis.  A quick study of how many neo prog bands from the 80's revival sound like Genesis supports my assertion.

its true although many seem to dismiss the later 'version' of Genesis as influential. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2014 at 17:04
I've never thought about this before, but it is a very apt comparison. Beatles = Genesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2014 at 00:00
There really is no "Beatles of prog" imo. However, the closest would be Gentle Giant. They were around for only ten years which is only a little bit longer than the Beatles but what GG did in that short period of time is very similar and equally groundbreaking(but in a different way)to the fab four. YES would also be a contender although their longetivity is more akin to a prog equivalent to the Rolling Stones(again imo).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2014 at 00:12
The Beatles were the core of prog, the white album alone, no record label to date would take the risk to release an album like that. Even before prog had a meaning in the moozik world, I truly believe Helter Skelter was the first metal song ever written :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2014 at 00:13
The Beatles were the Beatles, no band can be compared to them, really :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2014 at 14:56
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

The Beatles were the core of prog, the white album alone, no record label to date would take the risk to release an album like that. Even before prog had a meaning in the moozik world, I truly believe Helter Skelter was the first metal song ever written :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2014 at 16:51
Pink Floyd...since their level of being overplayed until I was sick of them is similar to the Beatles. Which would make Dream Theater the Beatles of progmetal.

And to be honest, I never considered PF prog before coming to PA.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2014 at 17:03
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I truly believe Helter Skelter was the first metal song ever written :)  

Check out 7 and 7 Is by Love from 1966 and see if you still believe that (not sure I consider any of them to be metal myself though. To me its early Heavy Rock).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6An7KGK6U3c
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2014 at 18:08
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I am not a Beatles fan, everyone knows that....Had their time and they are done, long time ago. They could not handle the fame and fortune...I agree with moshkito especially his first sentence.

It seems what most bands credit them with is song writing influence, they wrote great pop songs....Genesis wrote great pop songs too as did Marillion.

Who are the Beatles of hip-hop, R&B, disco, country...polka?



It's unfortunate you are not a Beatles fan. You lose any credibility IMO if you and Moskito don't think The Beatles were the most important formative influences on the majority early progressive rock musicians.

Here is a comment from Steve Hackett of Genesis and let's be honest there are many who feel this way.

“I was a huge Beatles fan, and they really set the template for what we called ‘progressive’ music,” says Steve Hackett, legendary guitarist for progressive rock kings Genesis from 1971 to 1977. “The most interesting period of the Beatles for musicians is basically ‘Revolver’ through ‘Sgt. Pepper’ through ‘Magical Mystery Tour.’ That was the golden period for production, ideas, the beginning of what was being called ‘progressive.’ Much of what followed with British music was in the wake of that. I owe a huge debt to the Beatles.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2014 at 06:30
Originally posted by NYSPORTSFAN NYSPORTSFAN wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I am not a Beatles fan, everyone knows that....Had their time and they are done, long time ago. They could not handle the fame and fortune...I agree with moshkito especially his first sentence.

It seems what most bands credit them with is song writing influence, they wrote great pop songs....Genesis wrote great pop songs too as did Marillion.

Who are the Beatles of hip-hop, R&B, disco, country...polka?



It's unfortunate you are not a Beatles fan. You lose any credibility IMO if you and Moskito don't think The Beatles were the most important formative influences on the majority early progressive rock musicians.

Here is a comment from Steve Hackett of Genesis and let's be honest there are many who feel this way.

“I was a huge Beatles fan, and they really set the template for what we called ‘progressive’ music,” says Steve Hackett, legendary guitarist for progressive rock kings Genesis from 1971 to 1977. “The most interesting period of the Beatles for musicians is basically ‘Revolver’ through ‘Sgt. Pepper’ through ‘Magical Mystery Tour.’ That was the golden period for production, ideas, the beginning of what was being called ‘progressive.’ Much of what followed with British music was in the wake of that. I owe a huge debt to the Beatles.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2014 at 07:49
Lots of UK prog musicians have attested as to how influential the Beatles were. Bill Bruford said that if you formed a band in the late 60s there were two questions:

a. Is it as good as the Beatles?
b. Does it sound different to everyone else?

As the Hackett quote indicates, the way the Beatles developed from their beat group beginnings set out the template for other groups to "do their own thing".





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2014 at 20:18
The Moody Blues or King Crimson
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