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Vompatti

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Posted: September 16 2014 at 18:30

Pink Floyd did a couple.

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Posted: September 16 2014 at 20:45

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Megadeth Rust in Peace is incredibly progressive for the genre and time period it was released.

I have no idea about the validity of this statement, however, ROCK ON BROTHER!!

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 04:00

The first post i read today : Deadwing is not prog at all.

The second : Ziggy and Justice for All, could be considered prog.

Now we just need Pink Floyd is not prog,

And could Franki goes to Hollywood be considered prog, because Pleasure Dome is surely and Epic

Edited by tamijo - September 17 2014 at 04:02

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 07:06

StaaViinsZ wrote:

PrognosticMind wrote:

Megadeth Rust in Peace is incredibly progressive for the genre and time period it was released.

I have no idea about the validity of this statement, however, ROCK ON BROTHER!!

I will still argue that both Rust in Peace and ...And Justice for All grace prog-dom Wink

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 09:34

yes most of whom you put down are on the edge of PROG

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 10:32

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Richie Blackmore stretched out into more prog territory when he was not with Deep Purple. His band Rainbow had some progressive feel, and his current project Blackmore's Night is very impressive in a prog folk genre.

Police guitarist Andy Summers stretched into prog with Bob Fripp's "I Advance Masked." He also put out some new-age colored solo albums, but I've never heard them.

I Advance Masked was actually one of two collaboration albums by both Summers and Fripp. I tried like heck to get into it, but outside of technique, it was a real yawner. It went the way of the used record store.

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 11:33

tamijo wrote:

The first post i read today : Deadwing is not prog at all.

The second : Ziggy and Justice for All, could be considered prog.

Now we just need Pink Floyd is not prog,

And could Franki goes to Hollywood be considered prog, because Pleasure Dome is surely and Epic

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2008/oct/08/pink.floyd.not.prog.rock

Here ya go.

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 12:25

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King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rush, Jethro Tull, Camel, Yes, Van der Graaf Generator, ELP, Gentle Giant, Caravan, Dream Theatre

Hey. You spelled eleven out of twelve of your favorite bands correct. Not bad at all.

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 14:25

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Hey. You spelled eleven out of twelve of your favorite bands correct. Not bad at all.

"Theatre" is an actual word. Also, you don't see me making sarcastic remarks when people use adjectives instead of adverbs.

Seriously, what's with everyone picking at me in these forums?

Edited by WrytXander - September 17 2014 at 14:34

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 14:38

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I've always felt that Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was quite progressive for 1973 Black Sabbath, especially when you take into account their previous albums.

You also have Rick Wakeman on it which gives it extra prog points!

I love that album, but had no idea Rick Wakeman played on it! Thanks for that bit of information Tongue

And yes, Bloody Sabbath had some progginess in it, but I wouldn't call it a prog album really.

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 15:07

WrytXander wrote:

Zenbadger wrote:

I've always felt that Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was quite progressive for 1973 Black Sabbath, especially when you take into account their previous albums.

You also have Rick Wakeman on it which gives it extra prog points!

I love that album, but had no idea Rick Wakeman played on it! Thanks for that bit of information Tongue

And yes, Bloody Sabbath had some progginess in it, but I wouldn't call it a prog album really.

I think the story behind that is Yes were recording Topographic Oceans in the next studio. Wakeman ended up hanging out with Sabbath a lot while the others were noodling around with that. He layed some keys and synth down on a few tracks. Apparently accepting payment in the form of beer!

Rick's good mates with Sabbath, if you can find the Tony Iommi interview he did for his Face To Face series it's well worth a watch.

Adam Wakeman also plays Keys for Sabbath on the road as well as Ozzy's band.

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 17:12

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Queen's first four albums were always considered to be quite progressive by the prog community at the time (why ignore Sheer Heart Attack??)

The others, I'm afraid, may have had some prog influences/influences on prog, but they were not truly progressive.

Incidentally, I've just listened to Toto's Absolutely Live and I cannot for the life of me understand why Boston, Kansas and the like are on this site and Toto aren't. Again, not all their albums are truly progressive, but some undoubtedly are. It seems some of the above bands have gained a place on this site on the basis of quite spurious claims to progressiveness, but some far more qualified bands haven't.

Boston isn't on here, but Kansas is because of their earliest albums, as well as their last album. I like Toto, and can see reasons for them being here as well.

My mistake - I was sure I'd seen a review of them, but I was clearly in error.

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Posted: September 17 2014 at 17:33

WrytXander wrote:

Saperlipopette! wrote:

Hey. You spelled eleven out of twelve of your favorite bands correct. Not bad at all.

Seriously, what's with everyone picking at me in these forums?

Sorry I didn't know about that. My comment was very supportive, though.

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Posted: September 19 2014 at 03:50

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Edited by tamijo - September 19 2014 at 03:54

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: September 19 2014 at 03:51

WrytXander wrote:

tamijo wrote:

The first post i read today : Deadwing is not prog at all.
The second : Ziggy and Justice for All, could be considered prog.
Now we just need Pink Floyd is not prog, And could Franki goes to Hollywood be considered prog, because Pleasure Dome is surely an epic

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2008/oct/08/pink.floyd.not.prog.rock

Here ya go.

Yes Pink Floyd is fantastic, and for sure not prog at all, but prog in general is sh*t.

Edited by tamijo - September 19 2014 at 03:53

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: September 19 2014 at 08:10

Prog albums..? No.

Albums with proggy songs and elements.? Yes.

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Posted: September 19 2014 at 08:34

Zenbadger wrote:

WrytXander wrote:

Zenbadger wrote:

I've always felt that Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was quite progressive for 1973 Black Sabbath, especially when you take into account their previous albums.

You also have Rick Wakeman on it which gives it extra prog points!

I love that album, but had no idea Rick Wakeman played on it! Thanks for that bit of information Tongue

And yes, Bloody Sabbath had some progginess in it, but I wouldn't call it a prog album really.

Rick's good mates with Sabbath, if you can find the Tony Iommi interview he did for his Face To Face series it's well worth a watch.

Adam Wakeman also plays Keys for Sabbath on the road as well as Ozzy's band.

This sounds about right. I remember reading that Wakeman would get bored during the Tales sessions, and go next door and play darts with the Sabbath guys. I love his brief appearance on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath quite a bit.

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Posted: September 19 2014 at 12:18

tamijo wrote:

WrytXander wrote:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2008/oct/08/pink.floyd.not.prog.rock

Here ya go.

Yes Pink Floyd is fantastic, and for sure not prog at all, but prog in general is sh*t.

That article is stupid, and I don't support what it says. Also, I didn't say Deadwing isn't prog; I'm actually really liking it. Also also, those albums have prog elements and the whole point of this thread is to discuss whether they can truly be considered prog or not.

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Posted: September 19 2014 at 12:19

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WrytXander wrote: