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zravkapt
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Topic: 2 Out Of 3 Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:48 |
This poll is like that Meat Loaf song. For those who think this would be better as a single vote 'least fave' poll: everybody knows Univers Zero, The Residents and Wyatt would 'win' these polls. Multiple choice is much more fun; just look at the results...WTF
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 22:50 |
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Kati
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:02 |
zravkapt wrote:
This poll is like that Meat Loaf song.For those who think this would be better as a single vote 'least fave' poll: everybody knows Univers Zero, The Residents and Wyatt would 'win' these polls. Multiple choice is much more fun; just look at the results...WTF
| hahahaha zravkapt, I am trying my best here to see a connection as how these 3 names above could possibly fit into the same category :) They are all so different and masters in their own right. I vote the odd one of the 3 which is Zappa, he was brilliant however unlike the others he never ever performed anything spot on exactly the same live, yet all was spot on perfect (I kind of admire and feel sorry for the band who had to perform live and keep up with him tho'). Mike Oldfield, Tubular Bells is most perfect, very different to Zappa, this is why I am a bit confused here I don't know much about Soft Machine tho' this is why in comparison to all and my personal taste I pick Zappa, although I love absolutely adore Tubular Bells too but these two are so different in every sense lol hugs
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:03 |
Oldfield is the odd man out for me.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: September 22 2014 at 23:11 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Oldfield is the odd man out for me. |
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 00:24 |
Zappa Wyatt
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infocat
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 01:10 |
Oldfield and Wyatt yes Zappa no (sorry!)
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Kati
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 01:13 |
infocat wrote:
Oldfield and Wyatt yesZappa no (sorry!)
| hahahaha lol that reply of yours seems like your profile pic is saying that hahaha lol love that Grumpy fluffy cat hahaha!! xx
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King Crimson776
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 01:19 |
Oldfield and Zappa
I've never been that big on solo Wyatt, and Rock Bottom in particular has little appeal to me.
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Hercules
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 05:51 |
Oldfield by a very long way.
Wyatt is just OK and, whilst Zappa is a genius, I really don't enjoy his music.
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Rednight
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 10:54 |
Compared to Zappa, the other two are also-rans.
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 11:50 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
Oldfield and Zappa
I've never been that big on solo Wyatt, and Rock Bottom in particular has little appeal to me. |
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Wanorak
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 12:40 |
Mike Oldfield by a very wide margin!!
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Logan
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 18:44 |
Of the three, I only really consider myself to be a big fan of Robert Wyatt. I like the other two, and love various music by Zappa, but neither of them have touched me like Robert Wyatt.
Hearing Rock Bottom was a music-changing. experience for me, and I also love his debut, and his other albums. I find Rock Bottom so poignant especially. And despite Wyatt's very unfortunate condition (his fall, hospitalisation and paralysis), I find it life-affirming. Well, it's silly, charming, and yes, sad, yet I find it hopeful. Harrowing, but hopeful. Wonderful album, and I find the story behind it quite remarkable (though much of it was conceived before the accident). For those that just find it okay, I wonder if it would mean more if they could imagine themselves in Wyatt's shoes at the time of recording and quite fresh out of hospital, partially paralysed, and getting a lot of musical support from his friends, and having thought of music for it while in hospital.
Even if, as he said, the musical themes did not result that directly from the accident (the album title sure evokes it), I sure can't distance it from that time in his life.
What I love about Wyatt's "solo" music generally is that the writing comes across as so personal and often intimate. There's whimsy, but also an earthiness and down-to-earthiness quality. I'd much sooner imagine him in a smoke filled little club than playing some arena. Imagine watching ELP in a stadium with all the theatrics and screaming fans sporting Love Beach style male camel-toes , now think Wyatt calmly playing horn and gruffly singing from his wheelchair while you enjoy a good pint of draught for contrast. I would choose the latter. I love so much of his stuff: from his solo albums to Matching mole and Soft Machine and various collaborations/ albums he has worked on.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 18:48 |
Wyatt and Zappa
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 18:52 |
Rednight wrote:
Compared to Zappa, the other two are also-rans. |
Strange, I guess I'm the only one who plays all three one after the other. Nah! Just kidding. Zap and Old for me, so no vote.
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HackettFan
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Posted: September 23 2014 at 23:21 |
Zappa
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Darious
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Posted: September 24 2014 at 04:12 |
Anything but Oldfield. Tubular Bells are so boring, awful and infantile to me! Should be forgotten forever and long time ago. Zappa and Wyatt out of these three for me, please.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: September 24 2014 at 05:55 |
Logan wrote:
Of the three, I only really consider myself to be a big fan of Robert Wyatt. I like the other two, and love various music by Zappa, but neither of them have touched me like Robert Wyatt.
Hearing Rock Bottom was a music-changing. experience for me, and I also love his debut, and his other albums. I find Rock Bottom so poignant especially. And despite Wyatt's very unfortunate condition (his fall, hospitalisation and paralysis), I find it life-affirming. Well, it's silly, charming, and yes, sad, yet I find it hopeful. Harrowing, but hopeful. Wonderful album, and I find the story behind it quite remarkable (though much of it was conceived before the accident). For those that just find it okay, I wonder if it would mean more if they could imagine themselves in Wyatt's shoes at the time of recording and quite fresh out of hospital, partially paralysed, and getting a lot of musical support from his friends, and having thought of music for it while in hospital.
Even if, as he said, the musical themes did not result that directly from the accident (the album title sure evokes it), I sure can't distance it from that time in his life.
What I love about Wyatt's "solo" music generally is that the writing comes across as so personal and often intimate. There's whimsy, but also an earthiness and down-to-earthiness quality. I'd much sooner imagine him in a smoke filled little club than playing some arena. Imagine watching ELP in a stadium with all the theatrics and screaming fans sporting Love Beach style male camel-toes , now think Wyatt calmly playing horn and gruffly singing from his wheelchair while you enjoy a good pint of draught for contrast. I would choose the latter. I love so much of his stuff: from his solo albums to Matching mole and Soft Machine and various collaborations/ albums he has worked on.
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Lovely post, Logan. Listening to Rock Bottom feels like listening to someone's life or a life experience. Mostly Robert's I guess but also my own, Alifie and perhaps even people I know and care about. That probably came out a little strange and I don't know if I actually managed to write what I trying to get across, but its not just an album. Its so much more.
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Logan
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Posted: September 24 2014 at 13:12 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Logan wrote:
Of the three, I only really consider myself to be a big fan
of Robert Wyatt. I like the other two, and love various music by Zappa,
but neither of them have touched me like Robert Wyatt.
Hearing
Rock Bottom was a music-changing. experience for me, and I also love
his debut, and his other albums. I find Rock Bottom so poignant
especially. And despite Wyatt's very unfortunate condition (his fall,
hospitalisation and paralysis), I find it life-affirming. Well, it's
silly, charming, and yes, sad, yet I find it hopeful. Harrowing, but
hopeful. Wonderful album, and I find the story behind it quite
remarkable (though much of it was conceived before the accident). For
those that just find it okay, I wonder if it would mean more if they
could imagine themselves in Wyatt's shoes at the time of recording and
quite fresh out of hospital, partially paralysed, and getting a lot of
musical support from his friends, and having thought of music for it
while in hospital.
Even if, as he said, the musical themes did
not result that directly from the accident (the album title sure evokes
it), I sure can't distance it from that time in his life.
What I
love about Wyatt's "solo" music generally is that the writing comes
across as so personal and often intimate. There's whimsy, but also an
earthiness and down-to-earthiness quality. I'd much sooner imagine him
in a smoke filled little club than playing some arena. Imagine watching
ELP in a stadium with all the theatrics and screaming fans sporting
Love Beach style male camel-toes , now think Wyatt calmly playing horn
and gruffly singing from his wheelchair while you enjoy a good pint of
draught for contrast. I would choose the latter. I love so much of his
stuff: from his solo albums to Matching mole and Soft Machine and
various collaborations/ albums he has worked on.
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Lovely post, Logan. Listening to Rock Bottom
feels like listening to someone's life or a life experience. Mostly
Robert's I guess but also my own, Alifie and perhaps even people I know
and care about. That probably came out a little strange and I don't know
if I actually managed to write what I trying to get across, but its not
just an album. Its so much more. |
I get what you're saying. ----------------------------------------------------- It's
a personal album that also hits me on a deeply personal level. It's
something that I personally can really relate to while at the same time
relating it to Robert, Alfie, and people I cherish. It's such a
meaningful album to me. And like good art, we aren't hit over the head
with a message, but we can bring our own meaning and experiences to it. I
expect that many who are into Prog (especially those who like arena
rock oriented stuff) would not be impressed by it because they're
wanting flash. Like other Wyatt albums, it's a much humbler work than
what is often classically thought of as Prog. It's not about showing
off, it's about relaying an experience. It's not about being larger
than life, it is about life. It's intimate,poetic, thoughtful,
whimsical, and emotional in a good way. There's such humility and
humanity to the album, I feel. Such poignancy amongst any absurdity.
Rock Bottom is so special.
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