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friso 
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 Topic: Debut: VdGG vs Caravan
Posted: September 28 2014 at 02:21 |
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Both psychedelic albums with early progressive moments.
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Xonty
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 02:51 |
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Caravan's debut is a masterpiece IMO, but VDGG's is better than it's made out to be.
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Hercules
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 03:42 |
Nothing VdGG have done appeals much to me and the Aerosol Grey Machine is certainly not one of their best efforts.
Although Caravan did much better (and, sadly some far worse) stuff later on, their debut contains enough fine moments to win easily.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 04:24 |
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I've always thought of these 2 sharing similarities in approach, and love them both pretty much equally, though Caravan probably hits the spot for me a smidge more these days than AGM.
Edited by Tom Ozric - September 28 2014 at 04:25
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 09:11 |
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Caravan by a stride
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 10:01 |
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Although VDGG's debut contains the divine Afterwards, Caravan's debut is the best debut album I own from any of the top 10 or so prog giants. Got to be Caravan!
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Wanorak
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 11:29 |
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Caravan, but IMO VDGG was much better than Caravan after these debuts.
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 17:46 |
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Graaf. There's 2 versions with a couple of different songs on each
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 19:12 |
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VDGG for sure for me.
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Posted: September 28 2014 at 22:22 |
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Caravan
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Posted: September 29 2014 at 12:01 |
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The first Caravan album had nothing to recommend it, as far as I'm concerned. Just ancient, dusty tunes no better than, say, anything from the Strawberry Alarm Clock. VDGG's first at least had a very fresh Peter Hammill and voice leading the charge.
Edited by Rednight - September 29 2014 at 12:02
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Barbu
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Posted: September 29 2014 at 13:57 |
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Aerosol
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: September 29 2014 at 16:35 |
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Not a big fan of either but I do like Caravan's debut more.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: September 30 2014 at 00:40 |
 dr prog wrote:
Graaf. There's 2 versions with a couple of different songs on each |
I own the Mercury vinyl (it's a reissue of some sorts.....), it doesn't have the piece called 'Giant Squid', but I didn't think anything else differed.....
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 03:30 |
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I've always liked VDGG's debut album, haven't listened to it in quite a while, I need to give it a listen.
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Svetonio
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 04:17 |
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Caravan by nautical mile.
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 12:53 |
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Caravn by nautical light year
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 13:34 |
I definitely had to go with Caravan on this one. I'm still on the fence about the VDGG that I own.
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Posted: March 29 2015 at 14:46 |
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Love Aerosol!
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