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    Posted: September 28 2014 at 21:40
A common feature of prog, the extended coda can most easily be traced back to the Beatles’ Hey Jude. (If anyone can name an earlier example, let’s hear it!)

Since I’ve never had any formal (or informal) musical training, those that do could probably describe it better, but to be a coda it has to be at the end of and distinct from the main part of the song, but still sound like a natural part of it. To be extended, it would need to go on for at least 2 minutes (IMO), and have some repetition but build to a crescendo or have enough variation within it to keep it from getting boring.

I’ve found that a lot of tracks that have them tend to be favorites of mine:

Ange – Au-Delà du Délire
Kansas – Incomudro—Hymn to the Atman
Kansas – Peaceful and Warm
Esperanto – Gypsy
Esperanto – The Prisoner
Esperanto – The Rape
Flash – There No More
Steve Hackett – Shadow of the Hierophant
Genesis – The Fountain of Salmacis
Renaissance – Ashes Are Burning
Caravan – Can You Hear Me
National Health – Elephants
Focus – Focus (Instrumental)
Focus – Carnival Fugue
Supertramp – Crime of the Century
Stackridge – Teatime
Strawbs – Down by the Sea
Strawbs – No Return
Quantum Jump – Something at the Bottom of the Sea
Quantum Jump – Love Crossed (Like Vines in Our Eyes)
Greenslade – Joie de Vivre
Greenslade – Spirit of the Dance
Yes – Starship Trooper
Rare Bird – Epic Forest
Roxy Music – In Every Dream Home a Heartache
Santana – Dance Sister Dance (Baila Mi Hermana)

A couple of non-prog examples:

Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird
Outlaws – Green Grass and High Tides

The thread about songs that fade out reminded me of some songs that have codas that might be too short to be considered extended, but would have probably improved the song had they been longer:

ELO – Shangri-La
Formula 3 – Bambina Sbagliata
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2014 at 21:42
Lizard - King Crimson
All of the Above - Transatlantic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2014 at 00:18
The "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" coda is much better than "Hey Jude"!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2014 at 10:54
Originally posted by AreYouHuman AreYouHuman wrote:

A common feature of prog, the extended coda can most easily be traced back to the Beatles’ Hey Jude. (If anyone can name an earlier example, let’s hear it!)

Since I’ve never had any formal (or informal) musical training, those that do could probably describe it better, but to be a coda it has to be at the end of and distinct from the main part of the song, but still sound like a natural part of it. To be extended, it would need to go on for at least 2 minutes (IMO), and have some repetition but build to a crescendo or have enough variation within it to keep it from getting boring.

I’ve found that a lot of tracks that have them tend to be favorites of mine:

Ange – Au-Delà du Délire
Kansas – Incomudro—Hymn to the Atman
Kansas – Peaceful and Warm
Esperanto – Gypsy
Esperanto – The Prisoner
Esperanto – The Rape
Flash – There No More
Steve Hackett – Shadow of the Hierophant
Genesis – The Fountain of Salmacis
Renaissance – Ashes Are Burning
Caravan – Can You Hear Me
National Health – Elephants
Focus – Focus (Instrumental)
Focus – Carnival Fugue
Supertramp – Crime of the Century
Stackridge – Teatime
Strawbs – Down by the Sea
Strawbs – No Return
Quantum Jump – Something at the Bottom of the Sea
Quantum Jump – Love Crossed (Like Vines in Our Eyes)
Greenslade – Joie de Vivre
Greenslade – Spirit of the Dance
Yes – Starship Trooper
Rare Bird – Epic Forest
Roxy Music – In Every Dream Home a Heartache
Santana – Dance Sister Dance (Baila Mi Hermana)

A couple of non-prog examples:

Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird
Outlaws – Green Grass and High Tides

The thread about songs that fade out reminded me of some songs that have codas that might be too short to be considered extended, but would have probably improved the song had they been longer:

ELO – Shangri-La
Formula 3 – Bambina Sbagliata
For the prog things that's a nice list....all of those have great long fade out endings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2014 at 20:13
I'm not sure I remember every piece of music with this kind of description that I like, but since you mentioned Hackett's "Shadow of the Hierophan", yeah, that one might just as well be among my very favourite ones... it's just amazing and eerie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2014 at 20:15
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

The "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" coda is much better than "Hey Jude"!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2014 at 01:51
Good list OP. One of my favorite prog rock tools. 

Shadow of the Hierophant is probably my favorite.
Crime of the Century has the added nuance of that melancholy - reverbed out harmonica. 
She's so Heavy
And I would count the outro of Zappa's Montana in this class.
Starless?
Somebody - Haken
Nova Express - Nebelnest



I am trying to find a couple progmetal examples. They tend to be shorter.
Meshuggah - Sublevels (Thordendahl used the same outro on Special Defects)
They also created very eerie undistorted outros on Catch 33 and Koloss.


From outside prog:
The Last Resort - Eagles
Madman Across the Water - Elton John
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2014 at 09:39
Yes - Starship Trooper

Caravan - Nine Feet Underground

Supertramp - Child of Vision
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2014 at 03:18
The Beatles did a lot in this sort of thing:

Hey Jude
Day in the Life
Strawberry Fields
It's all Too Much
All You Need is Love
Hello Goodbye
I am the Walrus
I Want You
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2014 at 03:27
When I look down my list of favourite songs, a distinct Coda seems to be a very common feature. Here are 10 in my top 100.

Bowie - Cygnet Committee
Alex Harvey - Anthem (though this is a reprise of the opening)
Roxy Music - Song for Europe
Edgar Broughton - Evening over Rooftops
Yes - Starship Trooper
King Crimson - Epitaph
Pink Floyd - Saucerful of Secrets (especially the studi version)
Bowie - 5 Years
Rolling Stones - Time Waits for No One
ELP - Lucky Man
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 01 2014 at 20:07
^ Svetonio: Not sure if your choices would be ECs in the strictest sense, but they’re all songs I like so I’m not going to split hairs about it.

^ t.y.a.: Great choices, though I’m not familiar with all of them. You’re right about the Beatles, though Hey Jude is considered the first that’s actually extended. Again, not splitting hairs.

Some more goods:

PFM – Have Your Cake and Beat It
Le Orme – Fine di un Viaggio
Anthony Phillips – The Geese and the Ghost
Anthony Phillips – Which Way the Wind Blows
Barclay James Harvest – May Day
Barclay James Harvest – Paper Wings
U.K. – The Only Thing She Needs
Van Der Graaf Generator – Scorched Earth
Vangelis – To the Unknown Man
Strawbs – Lay a Little Light on Me/Hero’s Theme
King Crimson – In the Wake of Poseidon
Robert Wyatt – Sea Song
David Bowie – Memory of a Free Festival
Babe Ruth – The Runaways
Armageddon – Last Stand Before
Kevin Ayers – The Confessions of Dr. Dream

A few non-progs:

Carpenters – Goodbye to Love
Eagles – The Last Resort. That’s what makes it my fave from Hotel California.
James Gang (w/ Tommy Bolin) – Mystery
Rod Stewart – Every Picture Tells a Story
Savoy Brown – Hellbound Train
Grand Funk Railroad – Closer to Home (I’m Your Captain)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2014 at 16:31
First thing that came to mind:

Genesis - Return Of The Giant Hogweed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2014 at 17:53
ummmmmmmm..... does The Cinema Show count here??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 02 2014 at 23:33
Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

ummmmmmmm..... does The Cinema Show count here??

I don’t think there are hard-and-fast rules on this, so I don’t see why not, even though it segues into Aisle of Plenty.

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Procol Harum – Robert’s Box
Beach Boys -- Cabinessence
Beach Boys – Surf’s Up
Chicago – Beginnings
Dire Straits – Telegraph Road


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2014 at 01:22
ELP - Aquatarkus

may be some debate whether that one counts I guess...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2014 at 10:34
I only want to say that Mike Rutherford's guitar work was economically excellent in Second Home By the Sea.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2014 at 22:09
Speaking of Mike Rutherford, there was a track from the sessions for “Smallcreep’s Day”, Compression, which was a B-side, that had a terrific EC.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2014 at 01:53
Originally posted by AreYouHuman AreYouHuman wrote:

^ Svetonio: Not sure if your choices would be ECs in the strictest sense, but they’re all songs I like so I’m not going to split hairs about it.
Oh, okay..
What about Spinning Wheel by Blood, Sweat & Tears?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2014 at 08:45
Originally posted by AreYouHuman AreYouHuman wrote:

Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:

ummmmmmmm..... does The Cinema Show count here??

I don’t think there are hard-and-fast rules on this, so I don’t see why not, even though it segues into Aisle of Plenty.

A few more goods:

Procol Harum – Robert’s Box
Beach Boys -- Cabinessence
Beach Boys – Surf’s Up
Chicago – Beginnings
Dire Straits – Telegraph Road

yeah, that makes sense. there's also (In) The Court of the Crimson King (who celebrated a 45th birthday along with the rest of the album yesterday!) that i think wasn't mentioned yet, but of course Epitaph, Starship Trooper, the like. and for non-prog, Free Bird, Green Grass and High Tides (pretty much a knock off of Free Bird with an additional guitar solo but its still great to me), Isn't It a Pity (Version One), etc.

UPDATE: forgot to mention Crime of the Century! i mean, goddamn that was cool....


Edited by Michael678 - October 11 2014 at 08:45
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