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O666 
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 Posted: October 05 2014 at 10:52 |
 rushfan4 wrote:
His question was which band was biggest. The only way in the world that KC is bigger than Rush is in number of members.
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Disagree.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 11:14 |
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^ Can you explain why you disagree?
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 11:42 |
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Argonaught
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Posted: October 05 2014 at 13:36 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Can you explain why you disagree? |
Don't be such a nudnik 
In a good faith attempt to strike a compromise between the two camps:
Rush is like Honda. Every couple of years - very predictably - they roll out a new product that is guaranteed to sell well, not to look weird, garner positive reviews and attain a good resale value.
KC is is a little bit like Sir Richard Branson or Elon Musk. Try as you might, you just have no way of predicting what they may come up with next, and whether it's going to be a dream come true, or an illusion, gone from sizzle to fizzle.
Now, is it more cult-like behavior to be buying a new Accord every 6-7 years, or to be saving up for a "forthcoming" mass-market Tesla that may never come?
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 02:05 |
twosteves wrote:
hellogoodbye wrote:
KC, no doubt. |
This---plus you can be cool if you like KC---guaranteed  ---with Rush there is no guarantee.  |
Who gives a flying hoot about whether or not something is considered "cool". You can be "cool" as much as you want. It still doesn't matter. BTW, Rush has always been better than KC in my opinion. Prozack Blues  .
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twosteves
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 08:57 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twosteves wrote:
hellogoodbye wrote:
KC, no doubt. |
This---plus you can be cool if you like KC---guaranteed  ---with Rush there is no guarantee.  |
Who gives a flying hoot about whether or not something is considered "cool". You can be "cool" as much as you want. It still doesn't matter. BTW, Rush has always been better than KC in my opinion. Prozack Blues  . |
In my understanding and definition a "cult" band is a group that a group of cool people love and think they and the band are cool---it's usually a group that does not have overwhelming popular appeal. 
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 09:30 |
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ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twosteves wrote:
[QUOTE=hellogoodbye]KC, no doubt. |
This---plus you can be cool if you like KC---guaranteed ---with Rush there is no guarantee. |
Who gives a flying hoot about whether or not something is considered "cool". You can be "cool" as much as you want. It still doesn't matter. BTW, Rush has always been better than KC in my opinion. Prozack Blues . |
In my understanding and definition a "cult" band is a group that a group of cool people love and think they and the band are cool---it's usually a group that does not have overwhelming popular appeal.
In nearly selling out two nights for the Los Angeles stop of their current tour, Crimso' can definitely not be considered a cult band. They are not Mel Torme!
Edited by Rednight - October 06 2014 at 10:05
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rushfan4
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 09:42 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
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That's true. I'll give KC that over Rush too.
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O666
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:21 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Can you explain why you disagree? |
I think KC is greater band. I like Rush but KC is a different band in "Progressive Music" history (IMO). I dont care about number of members I zoom to quality,Technic,Composing,and other musical elements. And never forget "Over Dubbing" in studio albums!!!
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O666
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 10:26 |
OH please wait a minute! Perhaps I don't get correct and this make a Misunderstanding. I think I mistake about "Big" word!! 
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 16:08 |
Rednight wrote:
twosteves wrote:
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ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twosteves wrote:
[QUOTE=hellogoodbye]KC, no doubt. |
This---plus you can be cool if you like KC---guaranteed ---with Rush there is no guarantee. |
Who gives a flying hoot about whether or not something is considered "cool". You can be "cool" as much as you want. It still doesn't matter. BTW, Rush has always been better than KC in my opinion. Prozack Blues . |
In my understanding and definition a "cult" band is a group that a group of cool people love and think they and the band are cool---it's usually a group that does not have overwhelming popular appeal.
In nearly selling out two nights for the Los Angeles stop of their current tour, Crimso' can definitely not be considered a cult band. They are not Mel Torme!
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I think they can by selling out 2 nights in LA if it was a moderately sized venue---Rush can't as they sold out like 2 or 3 nights at Madison Sq Garden!!
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 10:29 |
twosteves wrote:
Rednight wrote:
twosteves wrote:
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ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
twosteves wrote:
[QUOTE=hellogoodbye]KC, no doubt. |
This---plus you can be cool if you like KC---guaranteed ---with Rush there is no guarantee. |
Who gives a flying hoot about whether or not something is considered "cool". You can be "cool" as much as you want. It still doesn't matter. BTW, Rush has always been better than KC in my opinion. Prozack Blues . |
In my understanding and definition a "cult" band is a group that a group of cool people love and think they and the band are cool---it's usually a group that does not have overwhelming popular appeal. alt="Wink" title="Wink">
In nearly selling out two nights for the Los Angeles stop of their current tour, Crimso' can definitely not be considered a cult band. They are not Mel Torme!
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I think they can by selling out 2 nights in LA if it was a moderately sized venue---Rush can't as they sold out like 2 or 3 nights at Madison Sq Garden!! |
The significant point to be made, professor, is that while around a little under 2,000 fans each night hung on in awe to every note played at last week's two-night King Crimson stint at Los Angeles' Orpheum Theater, throngs of Rush fans at the Garden's last go-round (an easy 20,000 seater) were probably crowding the snack bars or milling around in the outer halls while the band played some of their ample backlog of so-so music produced after Grace Under Pressure and earlier. Don't get me wrong-I'm sure they ran back in for the likes of Tom Sawyer and the rest of that ilk.
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proggman
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Posted: October 11 2014 at 18:24 |
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I'll vote for King Crimson simply because they're a cult band, while Rush who has sold more than 40 million is a mainstream band.
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 03:07 |
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Rush ceased being a cult band certainly with the popularity of "The Spirit of Radio" hit.
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AZF
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 08:56 |
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King Crimson!
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 09:13 |
After rereading the posts and thinkin' on it I'm not sure I'd consider either band to be a 'cult band'. How does one define that? A smaller number of sales, smaller but devoted fan base, an unusual charismatic band leader, fans who worship them with occult/esoteric rituals...?
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SteveG
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 09:49 |
dr wu23 wrote:
After rereading the posts and thinkin' on it I'm not sure I'd consider either band to be a 'cult band'.How does one define that? A smaller number of sales, smaller but devoted fan base, an unusual charismatic band leader, fans who worship them with occult/esoteric rituals...? |
It's all in jest, Doc. Geddy Lee has often stated that Rush were "the world's biggest cult band" (most recently in the great Rush Doc 'Beyond the lighted stage', so I just put his band up against KC for fun. Just to be clear, neither is a real cult band to me. 
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: March 31 2018 at 00:19 |
proggman wrote:
I'll vote for King Crimson simply because they're a cult band, while Rush who has sold more than 40 million is a mainstream band.
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Mainstream?
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BaldFriede
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Posted: March 31 2018 at 01:47 |
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I actually think neither Rush nor King Crimson are cult bands. The
Grateful Dead, Magma, Hawkwind, Gong or Guru Guru - those are cult bands.
Edited by BaldFriede - March 31 2018 at 01:48
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Posted: March 31 2018 at 02:07 |
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KC.
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