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SteveG
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Topic: Would Elvis Have Liked Modern Prog? Posted: October 07 2014 at 10:33 |
WhenI first saw ELP in concort, Keith Emerson did his patented stage antics which inclued Keith jamming a knife between the keys of his Hammond before going all Jerry Lee Lewis on us and tipping the organ onto himself and paying the thing upside down and backwards. Jerry Lee would certainly have been pround . To me, this was the logical result of Rock 'n' Roll morphing into Prog music, Technical nous mixed with the emtional gusto. But after the initial early rock 'n' blast blast in prog, the music became more serious, with one well know gutiarist refusing to perform unless his was sitting down to play play on stage,Don't worry, hold outs like Frank Zappa still payed by to the tune of the a different drummer; but many Prog bands embrased a more formal persona and starting giving concerts that were more akin to clsssical recitals that to a rock concert. Would Elvis have understood modern prog or would he have rejected it's lack of passion and simply left the building?
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 11:03 |
Is Elvis dead?
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 11:46 |
Elvis killed punk music.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 12:02 |
Chicago's current bassist/singer is Jason Scheff, and his father Jerry Scheff played bass and toured with Elvis...so possibly Elvis may have been keen on the jazzy rock of Chicago type bands.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 12:33 |
One Elvis anecdote I remember reading (forgot where, sorry) suggested that Presley had a pretty offbeat sense of humor, suggesting he may have had a taste for unusual stuff off the beaten path. Apart from that, I don't know enough about Elvis to venture a guess. I probably have a broader knowledge of Elvis Costello, in case his name comes up.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 12:38 |
I don't really understand the question, at least not in the way you've asked it. Elvis and his contemporaries were alive and active during the progressive rock heyday, so the question really isn't relevant. Regardless, I don't think the showmanship of Keith Emerson is suitable to form a basis for Elvis's possible feelings about prog rock. I see very few artistic parallels between early rock music (Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, etc) and what eventually became prog rock. While our beloved prog musicians most likely enjoyed the aforementioned artists, there is little reason to believe the opposite would be true.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 15:09 |
^"Would Elvis have understood modern Prog?" Was the question. Care to try the scenario again without Elvis being present.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 15:22 |
Lets cut ot the chase. Does the early wild abandon of Rock 'N' Rock still manifests itself in Prog Rock, or has the Prog music world became a distant unrecognible relative of it's manic ground breaking Devil may care forerunner?
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 15:30 |
I really have never heard such a silly question or proposition.
The "early wild abandon of rock and roll", as you put it, can be heard in the early wild abandon of every generation of rock and pop music since the era you start with. It's the kids, man......
I seriously doubt whether the likes of Chris Squire would have liked modern Yes in their yoof. Yes were quite the revolutionaries in their earlier days, and are now old men. They make music which is more suited to the....ahem.....more mature audience.
Devil may care is a young man's game. It is a rare creature that continues that into their maturity. They are usually utterly barking when they do.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 15:38 |
^I guess you never witnessd Emerson stab his Hammond keyboard with a knife or never witnessed Jon Lord do a hand stand on his? Does prog inevitably take the fun out of music because few, some but few, prog performers do that now. I guess anything that questions Prog's integrity to some people would be viewed as silly.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 16:41 |
I really do not think Elvis had much idea about "prog or psychedelic rock" when he was living. Did he know who Pink Floyd, Genesis and Yes were, KC and maybe a few others...Probably. As much as people see him as the king of Rock n Roll, I think he had deep love and passion for country/western, blues, R&B and heavy into gospel music. I don't think he would have cared much about modern prog or thought that Jerry Lee Lewis type rockabilly morphed into prog rock, which I don't think it did. I suspect he would not cared at all for today's modern rock, pop and especially hip/hop. All IMHO
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 16:54 |
Elvis only likes Neo.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 18:48 |
[QUOTE=SteveG] ^I guess you never witnessd Emerson stab his Hammond keyboard with a knife or never witnessed Jon Lord do a hand stand on his? QUOTE] But these are examples from the early days of prog and you specified the topic was modern prog. Jon Lord has now gone to the great gig in the sky and Keith Emerson is far from a spring chicken. I am 54 years old and I've never seen these things. A more precise and illuminating question would be whether Elvis liked ELP, Yes, Tull, King Crimson, etc. when he was alive. Note that all of these examples presented sounds wildly divergent from one another, so if Elvis liked one he would not necessarily have to like another. There may a record of that somewhere. Did someone ever ask him? Did he give any opinions on Aqualung, Roundabout, or Money? Does liking or appreciating one song imply that one must also like everything else by the same artist? Is the question really about prog not being fun or wild anymore? And who says it is or isn't?
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 18:59 |
Catcher10 wrote:
I really do not think Elvis had much idea about "prog or psychedelic rock" when he was living. Did he know who Pink Floyd, Genesis and Yes were, KC and maybe a few others...Probably.
As much as people see him as the king of Rock n Roll, I think he had deep love and passion for country/western, blues, R&B and heavy into gospel music.
I don't think he would have cared much about modern prog or thought that Jerry Lee Lewis type rockabilly morphed into prog rock, which I don't think it did.
I suspect he would not cared at all for today's modern rock, pop and especially hip/hop.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 19:01 |
SteveG wrote:
^I guess you never witnessd Emerson stab his Hammond keyboard with a knife or never witnessed Jon Lord do a hand stand on his?
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This doesn't really have much to do with liking the actual genre of music though, does it? Just because someone might appreciate the showmanship of a couple early bands does not mean they liked the music from a sonic perspective. I've seen plenty of live shows (Beck for example) where I didn't really care for the music but enjoyed the production (sound, stage set up, lighting, etc) and the performance.
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 19:09 |
How would Genghis Khan feel about golf?
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 19:13 |
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Hitler and Krautrock
Bridgemakers and Crossover Prog
Mailmen and Post-Rock
Volcanoes and Magma
Weightlifters and Heavy Prog
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 19:29 |
Would Elvis' pelvis like prog?
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Posted: October 07 2014 at 19:29 |
Progosopher wrote:
[QUOTE=SteveG] ^I guess you never witnessd Emerson stab his Hammond keyboard with a knife or never witnessed Jon Lord do a hand stand on his?
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But these are examples from the early days of prog and you specified the topic was modern prog. Jon Lord has now gone to the great gig in the sky and Keith Emerson is far from a spring chicken. I am 54 years old and I've never seen these things. A more precise and illuminating question would be whether Elvis liked ELP, Yes, Tull, King Crimson, etc. when he was alive. Note that all of these examples presented sounds wildly divergent from one another, so if Elvis liked one he would not necessarily have to like another. There may a record of that somewhere. Did someone ever ask him? Did he give any opinions on Aqualung, Roundabout, or Money? Does liking or appreciating one song imply that one must also like everything else by the same artist? Is the question really about prog not being fun or wild anymore? And who says it is or isn't? | The Progman has hit the nail on the head again (as usual). With most of the fun theatrics in Prog no longer available due to those that quit it or passed on and with no new ones to take up the mantle.
Does Prog Still Evoke The Spirit of Rock 'n Roll? Because that's the only way Elvis would have liked it.
But enougth about Elvis, his pelvis (lol) and his fried banana sandwiches:
Is Progressive Music Still Fun for Fans?
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