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Rick Robson
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Posted: October 20 2014 at 19:26 |
^Ops... that was really a big misunderstanding of mine of what was written by Blacksword about them (cod reggae) - also a silly error assuming that... , this time I'm gonna sleep earlier this night Icarium.
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"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB
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JeanFrame
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 14:40 |
I like ELO, but they are not as inventive as 10cc (IMHO)
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kenethlevine
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Posted: October 21 2014 at 21:31 |
not a fan of either, with both being too smarmy for me, but 10CC gets a slight edge for not recycling silly violin riffs over and over.
Edited by kenethlevine - October 21 2014 at 21:32
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richardh
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 01:27 |
kenethlevine wrote:
not a fan of either, with both being too smarmy for me, but 10CC gets a slight edge for not recycling silly violin riffs over and over. |
Its funny really how you can make a whole career out of re-imagining I Am The Walrus
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 01:42 |
iluvmarillion wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
ELO. A New World Record is a masterwork.
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Mission, So Fine and Livin' Thing are great songs. Not sure about the rest of the album though. |
None for "Telephone Line" or "Shangri-La"? Nothing for them? ...
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 02:17 |
Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song....... .......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion.......
Edited by Tom Ozric - October 22 2014 at 02:18
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 02:24 |
Both have their charms, but the 10cc humor gives it the edge.
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irrelevant
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 09:45 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song....... .......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion....... |
Too complex to be by-the-numbers
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richardh
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 15:24 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song....... .......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion....... |
needs to be heard on headphones then you may feel a little different about it ( or not).
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iluvmarillion
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Posted: October 22 2014 at 17:38 |
Yeah, have to admit, two good songs there. Though "A New World Record" is more of a collection of pop singles than a cohesive body of work.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 23 2014 at 00:51 |
irrelevant wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song....... .......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion....... |
Too complex to be by-the-numbers |
when I hear a tune - albeit, the 'popular' tunes, nothing strikes me as 'complex'....... I must be missing something here........???
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irrelevant
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Posted: October 23 2014 at 04:55 |
It's in the structure. 10cc during their prime years would write quite a lot more sections into their pop songs than most, hence the art pop and progressive pop tags they're often given. Art For Arts Sake is one of their more straight-up songs from that period, but still a bit more compositionally restless than the average pop-rock. Check out "Iceberg" that Icarium posted in this thread.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: October 23 2014 at 06:57 |
ELO
great harmonies, orchestral music and progginess for radio airplay
Love Horace Wimp, RockAria, Last train to london, its a living thing, beethoven, Mr Blue Sky
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 23 2014 at 08:24 |
Yeah - they are a band I should dig deeper into, probably not unlike Roxy in their more creatively artistic period. Just I never was captivated enough by the few tunes I've heard....
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Rednight
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Posted: October 23 2014 at 10:06 |
"Comparisons are odious." -John Lydgate
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proggman
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Posted: October 23 2014 at 22:24 |
10cc.
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When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night.
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