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Poll Question: which is your favourite art rock, crossover prog act,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 19:26
^Ops... that was really a big misunderstanding of mine of what was written by Blacksword about them (cod reggae) - also a silly error assuming that... Confused, this time I'm gonna sleep earlier this night Icarium.  Ouch


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2014 at 14:40
I like ELO, but they are not as inventive as 10cc (IMHO)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2014 at 21:31
not a fan of either, with both being too smarmy for me, but 10CC gets a slight edge for not recycling silly violin riffs over and over.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 01:27
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

not a fan of either, with both being too smarmy for me, but 10CC gets a slight edge for not recycling silly violin riffs over and over.  

Its funny really how you can make a whole career out of re-imagining I Am The WalrusWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 01:42
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

ELO. A New World Record is a masterwork.

Mission, So Fine and Livin' Thing are great songs. Not sure about the rest of the album though.
None for "Telephone Line" or "Shangri-La"? Nothing for them? ... Broken Heart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 02:17
Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song.......
.......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion.......      

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 02:24
Both have their charms, but the 10cc humor gives it the edge.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 09:45
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song.......
.......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion.......      
Too complex to be by-the-numbers
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 15:24
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song.......
.......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion.......      

needs to be heard on headphones then you may feel a little different about it ( or not). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 17:38
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

ELO. A New World Record is a masterwork.

Mission, So Fine and Livin' Thing are great songs. Not sure about the rest of the album though.
None for "Telephone Line" or "Shangri-La"? Nothing for them? ... Broken Heart

Yeah, have to admit, two good songs there. Though "A New World Record" is more of a collection of pop singles than a cohesive body of work. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2014 at 00:51
Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song.......
.......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion.......      

Too complex to be by-the-numbers
when I hear a tune - albeit, the 'popular' tunes, nothing strikes me as 'complex'.......
I must be missing something here........???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2014 at 04:55
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Seriously, I heard the song 'Art For Art's Sake' today at work, and save for a slightly Floydian-atmospheric Iinterlude, the song is just another by-the-numbers pop song.......
.......non-offensive but nowhere near Prog in my opinion.......      

Too complex to be by-the-numbers
when I hear a tune - albeit, the 'popular' tunes, nothing strikes me as 'complex'.......
I must be missing something here........???
It's in the structure. 10cc during their prime years would write quite a lot more sections into their pop songs than most, hence the art pop and progressive pop tags they're often given. Art For Arts Sake is one of their more straight-up songs from that period, but still a bit more compositionally restless than the average pop-rock. Check out "Iceberg" that Icarium posted in this thread. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2014 at 06:57
ELO

great harmonies, orchestral music and progginess for radio airplay

Love Horace Wimp, RockAria, Last train to london, its a living thing, beethoven, Mr Blue Sky
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2014 at 08:24
Yeah - they are a band I should dig deeper into, probably not unlike Roxy in their more creatively artistic period. Just I never was captivated enough by the few tunes I've heard....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2014 at 10:06
"Comparisons are odious."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2014 at 22:24

10cc.

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
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