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emigre80 
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 Posted: June 01 2015 at 18:23 |
I've been pondering the concept behind this thread, and I'm trying to figure out what a "ceremonious" prog dismissal would look like - "Oh, it's been great, but we've decided to go in a different direction, but you can stay on for three months at full pay while you look around and here's a gold watch." Out in the real world, it's "thanks for your fifteen years of great service to the company, now here's a cardboard box to pack up your things and security will escort you off the premises in 15 minutes." So how is prog different? at least the dismissed musicians still get royalties.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: June 02 2015 at 00:40 |
I thought they should change their name to 'No' but there's some punk band already called that. ..........'Maybe' perhaps 
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Big Ears
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Posted: June 02 2015 at 09:01 |
These aren't progressive, but . . . Keef Hartley immortalised his dismissal, from John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, on Sacked from the Halfbreed album. Strangely, the track starts with a restaging of the phonecall from Mayall to Hartley. Perhaps the whole thing was staged for publicity. If so, it seemed to work at the time. Following the Captain Fantastic album, Eton John sacked drummer Nigel Olsson and bassist Dee Murray, who were a key part of the band's sound . It was the beginning of the end of his most productive period. Sometimes there are worse things than being dismissed; Tony Iommi damns (the excellent) Tony Martin with a lot of faint praise in his otherwise enjoyable biography, Iron Man.
Edited by Big Ears - June 02 2015 at 09:01
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cstack3
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Posted: June 03 2015 at 00:07 |
 Lear'sFool wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Question for all the Yes experts......why were Banks and Kaye asked to leave? Personally I enjoyed both musicians in Yes. |
I believe Banks claims that Anderson and Squire asked him to leave because they preferred Howe... though other reports claim that Banks left of his own accord, since he apparently didn't like the idea of recording with an orchestra, and by that report - as well as some that support Banks' story - claim that Yes only found Howe after Banks left/was sacked.
Kaye was definitely asked to leave, since he wanted to only work with his Hammond and not Moogs and the like. |
I've long pondered the "Why did Banks leave Yes?" question. This is from a very old story in Rolling Stone magazine:
Their departures from Yes are explained by Jon: "They didn't leave - we
decided to get someone else. It doesn't help them to say that. We've always
said that Tony decided to leave the band because it'd get him a better
situation. The truth is that we blew them out because they weren't really into what we were trying to get together . . . "
"Peter was a bit lazy, that's why. He liked his clothes a bit more than his music. Tony had a marvelous mind,
he was a great guy to talk to, but he didn't have so many ideas. He wasn't
willing to expound himself."
Pete Banks still doesn't quite see that things happened the way Jon
described. "I decided to make a move more than anything," he explained
one evening, sitting on the floor of his basement flat.
http://yesmuseum.org/Debate72.txt
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Rednight
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Posted: June 06 2015 at 14:20 |
emigre80 wrote:
I've been pondering the concept behind this thread, and I'm trying to figure out what a "ceremonious" prog dismissal would look like - "Oh, it's been great, but we've decided to go in a different direction, but you can stay on for three months at full pay while you look around and here's a gold watch." Out in the real world, it's "thanks for your fifteen years of great service to the company, now here's a cardboard box to pack up your things and security will escort you off the premises in 15 minutes." So how is prog different? at least the dismissed musicians still get royalties. |
Oh, you're too funny.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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FuseProg94
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I'm surprised I haven't seen a mention of UK. Bill Bruford was asked to leave soon after Allan Holdsworth's departure from the group because Bruford and Holdsworth wanted to take the music in a jazz fusion direction, which John Wetton was very much against. Wetton and Eddie Jobson then recruited Terry Bozzio for their second and last studio album before disbanding the group completely due to disagreements in musical direction.
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fudgenuts64
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Posted: June 12 2015 at 22:13 |
Hackett. Though it was on his own accord. And it did result in some fantastic albums...
Oh, and while I'm not a fan of the band anymore really, Derek Sherinian of Dream Theater. He was so tasteful in his playing. Jordan Rudess does not do it for me and Derek was literally kicked out. No wonder Falling Into Infinity is the last album of there's I can probably say I quite like.
Edited by fudgenuts64 - June 12 2015 at 22:13
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