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Blacksword 
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 Posted: June 01 2015 at 10:45 |
The last big HMV I went into was in Newcastle, last year I think. I was quite impressed by the selection. Nothing I hadn't seen before of course, I just didn't think I'd ever see such a big record shop again. Nice posters and tee shirt selection too..
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 12:04 |
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I used to spend hours of my youth doing that, it's not quite the same in the internet age.
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Ian
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Progosopher
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 15:13 |
 Meltdowner wrote:
CPicard wrote:
do they live in areas where they're the only ones to listen to records? |
Yes
CPicard wrote:
Do they live in families where no one except them has some records? |
Yes
CPicard wrote:
Aren't there some record stores in which you can listen to said records (would it be with headphones, in cabins or with the store owner...)? |
None at a reasonable distance
CPicard wrote:
Last thing: in France, one can rent CDs (and DVDs) in the public libraries, just like with books. |
Good luck finding any Prog album on a public library here 
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Librarians tend to be pretty nice people, some of my best friends are librarians, and most public libraries are open to suggestions. They buy for many reasons, and sometimes all you have to do is ask. No guarantees, though. Also, many library systems have connections to other library systems, which enhances your chance of finding some Prog. I have checked out Yes, Ian Anderson, Steven Wilson, ELP, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Dream Theater, Rush, Genesis, Pink Floyd, and many others Prog and not from local libraries, including newly released material. Like old fashioned record stores, the occasional gem could be lurking anywhere.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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rushfan4
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 15:39 |
Progosopher wrote:
Meltdowner wrote:
CPicard wrote:
do they live in areas where they're the only ones to listen to records? |
Yes
CPicard wrote:
Do they live in families where no one except them has some records? |
Yes
CPicard wrote:
Aren't there some record stores in which you can listen to said records (would it be with headphones, in cabins or with the store owner...)? |
None at a reasonable distance
CPicard wrote:
Last thing: in France, one can rent CDs (and DVDs) in the public libraries, just like with books. |
Good luck finding any Prog album on a public library here
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Librarians tend to be pretty nice people, some of my best friends are librarians, and most public libraries are open to suggestions. They buy for many reasons, and sometimes all you have to do is ask. No guarantees, though. Also, many library systems have connections to other library systems, which enhances your chance of finding some Prog. I have checked out Yes, Ian Anderson, Steven Wilson, ELP, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Dream Theater, Rush, Genesis, Pink Floyd, and many others Prog and not from local libraries, including newly released material. Like old fashioned record stores, the occasional gem could be lurking anywhere. |
I've actually seen Meshuggah and Opeth albums at my library; as well as Mother of Invention albums.
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Michael678
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 16:20 |
rogerthat wrote:
CPicard wrote:
I'm slightly disturbed by people discovering music on YouTube: do they live in areas where they're the only ones to listen to records? Do they live in families where no one except them has some records? Aren't there some record stores in which you can listen to said records (would it be with headphones, in cabins or with the store owner...)?
Last thing: in France, one can rent CDs (and DVDs) in the public libraries, just like with books. Such a system doesn't exist in the USA?
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Public library for CDs, what is that?  I am probably the only fool in my 200-strong office who still buys CDs and obviously my parents have long since lost interest in buying them. There WERE record stores but most of them have gone down and the few remaining ones will pretty shortly. That has not so much to do with downloading, in fact, but Itunes and ecommerce. It is so much easier for people to legally acquire their music through online avenues that they wouldn't care to go down to a store to do so. Anyway, there was only one store in my city that did stock a good collection of prog and I picked up as much of it as I could afford before it too went down.  Now even the top eretailer in our country doesn't seem to be too keen on stocking CDs of not so well known bands (which means most prog rock) so for new bands, I am dependent on bandcamp. |
oh no, a public library owns them along with books and DVDs, and now Blu-rays as well (there also of course used to be VHS tapes too; god how much i miss them). by the way i mainly speak of the ones that are around where i live.
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Meltdowner
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 16:28 |
Michael678 wrote:
that's funny, i actually do that myself as the main way to get into a new band/artist that some sort of "prog" connection (no matter how small it may appear to be). there's only a couple of Yes (well, one as of now, that being the 90125 album), some Rush, lots of Pink Floyd, one ELP album (Works, Volume 1), one King Crimson album (The Power to Believe), some Peter Gabriel, a couple from Genesis (including Seconds Out), some Dream Theater (their latest stuff anyway), and that's all i know of at least. and that's from the public libraries in the three counties i live in (one of them anyway lol). |
That's a nice selection already and that's also not a very obvious choice for a KC album  Actually, the first time I listened to Pink Floyd was on the high school library, they had a copy of Echoes. I also played their copy of Led Zeppelin IV a few times... I did find something good after all About the topic, the first time I listened to most KC albums was on Youtube, when it was still possible to find them, and I bought four LP's from them so far (ITCOTCK, Lizard, Islands, Red). I discovered so many great music through streaming services but I end up buying the albums (although I could only afford buying them recently, before that it was only on birthdays and christmas )
Progosopher wrote:
Librarians tend to be pretty nice people, some
of my best friends are librarians, and most public libraries are open to
suggestions. They buy for many reasons, and sometimes all you have to
do is ask. No guarantees, though. Also, many library systems have
connections to other library systems, which enhances your chance of
finding some Prog. I have checked out Yes, Ian Anderson, Steven Wilson,
ELP, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Dream Theater, Rush, Genesis, Pink
Floyd, and many others Prog and not from local libraries, including
newly released material. Like old fashioned record stores, the
occasional gem could be lurking anywhere. |
I haven't been in a library in quite some time, you are probably right 
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Michael678
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 17:35 |
Meltdowner wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
that's funny, i actually do that myself as the main way to get into a new band/artist that some sort of "prog" connection (no matter how small it may appear to be). there's only a couple of Yes (well, one as of now, that being the 90125 album), some Rush, lots of Pink Floyd, one ELP album (Works, Volume 1), one King Crimson album (The Power to Believe), some Peter Gabriel, a couple from Genesis (including Seconds Out), some Dream Theater (their latest stuff anyway), and that's all i know of at least. and that's from the public libraries in the three counties i live in (one of them anyway lol). |
That's a nice selection already and that's also not a very obvious choice for a KC album Actually, the first time I listened to Pink Floyd was on the high school library, they had a copy of Echoes. I also played their copy of Led Zeppelin IV a few times... I did find something good after all
About the topic, the first time I listened to most KC albums was on Youtube, when it was still possible to find them, and I bought four LP's from them so far (ITCOTCK, Lizard, Islands, Red). I discovered so many great music through streaming services but I end up buying the albums (although I could only afford buying them recently, before that it was only on birthdays and christmas )
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1.  OMFG so do i right now!!! i usually get most of my stuff during my birthmonth and christmas time. i need to have these in my collection ASAP!!!!!!
2. Led Zeppelin IV is fantastic indeed!
3. did you mean Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd or something, because that got me into Pink Floyd too; also need to have that in my collection for that reason (plus the artwork is awesome as usual, along with the inclusion of Arnold Layne).
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Meltdowner
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 17:59 |
Michael678 wrote:
1. OMFG so do i right now!!! i usually get most of my stuff during my birthmonth and christmas time. i need to have these in my collection ASAP!!!!!!
2. Led Zeppelin IV is fantastic indeed!
3. did you mean Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd or something, because that got me into Pink Floyd too; also need to have that in my collection for that reason (plus the artwork is awesome as usual, along with the inclusion of Arnold Layne).
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I think that's a very common situation I spent so much time like that, that I bought around 80 albums since I started working 6 months ago  What LZ album isn't?  Yep, that's the one, although I find the edited versions of the tracks annoying now The artwork is indeed awesome though 
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 19:20 |
Michael678 wrote:
rogerthat wrote:
CPicard wrote:
I'm slightly disturbed by people discovering music on YouTube: do they live in areas where they're the only ones to listen to records? Do they live in families where no one except them has some records? Aren't there some record stores in which you can listen to said records (would it be with headphones, in cabins or with the store owner...)?
Last thing: in France, one can rent CDs (and DVDs) in the public libraries, just like with books. Such a system doesn't exist in the USA?
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Public library for CDs, what is that? I am probably the only fool in my 200-strong office who still buys CDs and obviously my parents have long since lost interest in buying them. There WERE record stores but most of them have gone down and the few remaining ones will pretty shortly. That has not so much to do with downloading, in fact, but Itunes and ecommerce. It is so much easier for people to legally acquire their music through online avenues that they wouldn't care to go down to a store to do so. Anyway, there was only one store in my city that did stock a good collection of prog and I picked up as much of it as I could afford before it too went down. Now even the top eretailer in our country doesn't seem to be too keen on stocking CDs of not so well known bands (which means most prog rock) so for new bands, I am dependent on bandcamp. |
oh no, a public library owns them along with books and DVDs, and now Blu-rays as well (there also of course used to be VHS tapes too; god how much i miss them). by the way i mainly speak of the ones that are around where i live. |
I get that but we never had the concept of borrowing MUSIC CDs. As long as tapes were there, they were so affordable you didn't need a library to lend them out. And once tapes died out, consumption of music through 'legal' means too sank. We did used to have those sort of combined libraries or exclusive rent-a-movie shops but music was never offered in these libraries.
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 01 2015 at 19:23 |
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By the by, I do know that you can borrow music in libraries in America because my cousin sis used to borrow music from her college library. I was just being deliberately obtuse since the library is becoming increasingly obsolete here.
Edited by rogerthat - June 01 2015 at 19:24
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