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moshkito
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Posted: July 26 2016 at 10:53 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Damn near impossible to choose...they are all innovative and KC was always looking to explore new ground.As many have said....the first was revolutionary, so I'll go with ITCOTCK. |
This, in no way, was to suggest that any other album by KC was not important, or valuable.
But, in many ways, it tells you one thing, that we're not studying well (in my book!), and that is the time and place that it came out. By the time that "Red", "Starless" and "Lark's" came out, the importance factor of the work they were doing, was not as socially relevant as the original album, and a lot of this music got lost in the shuffle of "fame" by many other bands, and we even had folks at one station comment in Santa Barbara, about how pretentious those albums were, which I do not think they are at all.
But it's value, in terms of its social commentary, disguised as romantic poetry (that's how we look at it today!!! -- we can't remember or conceive of the reality behind it!), the album is very strong and still stands out today, and is quite visible in the current, and possibly last shows EVER, by King Crimson, when the two gigantic pieces are played and one of them is the closer complete with a far out drum solo with the 3 drummers. I'm not sure that one can emphasize things any better, about their strength and value!
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Posted: October 21 2016 at 05:03 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
micky wrote:
bah...
btw.. congrats on the promotion to the AR family.
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Thanks!
As far as this topic goes, I would be partial towards picking Discipline, too. Even if I don't like it, it's undeniably one of the biggest shifts that King Crimson ever took musically. But my gut choice is Lizard. It nails symphonic, it nails jazz, and it nails both at the same time. When it came out in 1970 it may very well have been the most unique album ever recorded. Plus Jon Anderson sings on it, surely that bumps it up by a couple of prog points? |
Lizard rules
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Posted: October 21 2016 at 05:06 |
Jon Anderson and Jamie Muir ruled the World
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Son.of.Tiresias
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Posted: October 21 2016 at 05:08 |
SteveG wrote:
No nods to Lizard? (Perhaps I'm biased as it's one of my faves! ) |
Donīt worry, Iīm biased too.
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Kingsnake
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Posted: October 21 2016 at 05:34 |
I love the song Lizard, with all the horns. Gives me goosebumps. Maybe the best prog-epic out there. I also love Red and One More Nightmare from Red. Mostly because of Bill Bruford. Some songs of the debut, I find quite nice, but I never really play it. It has no soul at all. I think Moody Blues and Barclay James Harvest succeed much better at mellotron based symphonic rock. But the albums that please me the most are Discipline and Beat. Wow, thank god for Levin, Belew and Bruford for finally making something coherent, groovy and even soulful and tongue-in-cheek with the material of Fripp.
Just like many 70's progrockbands I enjoy the 80's stuff the best. Also Thrak and Vrooom are great. Bud Discipline is maybe the best thing Fripp was ever involved in.
Edited by Kingsnake - December 06 2016 at 10:03
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: October 21 2016 at 06:21 |
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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andreol263
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Posted: October 21 2016 at 11:46 |
Probably Discipline, created a entire different style from the previous albums, althrough i really love Lizard, LTIA, Starless and Bible Black.
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Aled91
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Posted: December 05 2016 at 01:24 |
In The Court of The Crimson King. By definition
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kenethlevine
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Posted: December 06 2016 at 07:20 |
In the Court
Recently I was thinking about how it succeeds in being epic and innovative while each track is basically a song, with defined verses. It was in some ways a lot simpler and more accessible than the albums by the other big prog bands of that time (well, by definition, a year or two later). To some extent they continued this through Mach 1 anyway. Each album has at least a couple of "songs"
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Pigab
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Posted: February 04 2017 at 06:22 |
c'mon guys! King Crimson ARE progressive rock!
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micky
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Posted: February 04 2017 at 06:51 |
most progressive?... oh that is a no brainer in my book....Discipline..
sort of recast the prog wheel there.. previous albums were (or were not) good.. but hardly progressive in terms of what other bands were doing themselves.
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