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Why Did Genesis Call It Quits Again? |
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Cristi 
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^ nothing to be embarrassed about, I like Keep It Dark, too. One of the good songs on Abacab.
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Cord Change
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Posted: July 06 2018 at 01:39 |
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Is this the kind of question like ‘Why did the chicken cross the road?’
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Minus the h.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 06 2018 at 03:26 |
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Bloody ABACAB? Us purist prog rock snobs do not recognise that recording as belonging the the symphonic rock band Genesis...This is Parochial prog web site and we will have no popsters here...
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: July 06 2018 at 03:42 |
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Cristi
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Posted: July 06 2018 at 04:16 |
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Abacab is not a bad album, but it's not that good either. I do like the title track (although it's much better live), Me and Sarah Jane and Dodo/Lurker, the rest is rather average, plus there's the horrid Whodunnit. There are also the songs recorded at the same time on the Archives compilation and those are much better than most of the album (LOL) - Naminanu, Submarine, You Might Recall (and yet Banks thought Whodunnit was worth it, a wtf moment for me to be honest).
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Posted: July 07 2018 at 02:16 |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: July 07 2018 at 02:17 |
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Nothing wrong with ABACAB!
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 08 2018 at 02:36 |
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The decline in quality from wind and wuthering to ABACAB is definitely logarithmic...
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: July 08 2018 at 02:55 |
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^Which is funny, because I definitely enjoy the latter more than the former. Personal preference.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 09 2018 at 09:20 |
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That's not funny...subjective it may be on a general forum. But on a prog rock forum is it possible to rate ABACAB higher than wind and wuthering...that's just being a controversial arse...
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: July 09 2018 at 10:35 |
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...Or you know, you genuinely, like, enjoy the sound of one record more than another...precluding genre judgement all together.
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 09 2018 at 12:20 |
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So do you rate all of the post Hackett Genesis to be superior to those releases before Hackett left? I'm genuinely surprised that the last symphonic prog release would not titilate you if you liked the Gabriel era releases. I see from other posts that you do like Gabriel era Genesis. Which reinforces my surprise that the 1977 effort is not appealing!
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 09 2018 at 12:23 |
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I mean to say compare me and Sarah Jane to blood on the rooftops? And ABACAB with one for the vine?
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Frenetic Zetetic
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No, I don't rate all post-Hackett stuff as better. There's little bits here and there I enjoy more than some of the latter Hackett-era stuff, however. Obviously they all have their places, my man. My ears quite literally just enjoy one more than the other.
I'm a massive fan of Gabriel-era Genesis. There's an undeniable drop in quality; I'm not arguing that. My ears just prefer more straightforward stuff with Collins sometimes (I'm also a fan of his solo stuff, so it shouldn't come as a surprise).
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M27Barney
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Posted: July 10 2018 at 13:46 |
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On a personal note. I do have ABACAB and Duke and ATTWT in my CD collection....but when choosing a CD to SPIN I have 1000 better options to listen to....You need a bigger collection 😃
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Unlike Yes--I like all periods Genesis --it's obvious that the Gabriel Hackett era they made some of the best prog ever recorded----But Abacab is fine up until right after Dodo---but then it sort falls off a cliff. And I don't think the 3 of them made any perfect record there were great songs but very mediocre ones too on all the Collins Banks Rutherford albums. Duke came close but still not perfect like Trick of Tail or SEBTP.
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Posted: July 12 2018 at 09:51 |
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Genesis called it quits because:
NO PHIL, NO GENESIS
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Posted: July 14 2018 at 15:51 |
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Ron Party
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Two bands who come to mind -- I'm sure there are others -- should have changed their name following the departure of their respective Peters, i.e., Peter Gabriel and Peter Green.
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Yes should have changed their name to Cinema for their 90125 era. It would have saved a lot of hassle and recriminations and prog forum discussions!
 Not sure about Genesis changing their name after Gabriel or Hackett left. Maybe an idea would have been to have followed the example of the huge brewers of our American cousins and called themselves 'Genesis-Lite'! 
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