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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2018 at 22:59
^ ^ Guys, please don't invent bicycle. Bands/artists are in PA database, PA visitors add their new releases. Nobody knows without listening whether these releases are progressive, regressive etc. It may be clear from reviews.

As for me, it's more important to know how good or bad the album is, regardless of its "progressiveness".
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tempest_77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2018 at 23:04
Wasn't really what I was trying to say, I was just supporting the idea as I think it would help more accurately categorise certain artists' discographies.

Edit: While on the topic of things I wish we could inherit from MMA, I've just discovered that MMA allows half stars. I'll leave it there.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote proghaven Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2018 at 23:35
No we cannot say that the evolution of prog rock HAS hit its best. We are aware only of what was but not of what's to come. Only 50 years of evolution have passed at the moment. Only half a century. Let's avoid rushing.

If we insist that Prog Archives is 'your ultimate prog ROCK resource', yes the policy in adding new bands to the database may be more strict. But if the current prog is less rocky than before, if the idea of prog widens and even slightly gets blurred, why not to replace with 'your ultimate prog MUSIC resource'? And why a delution of prog into pop cannot be considered a delution of pop into prog? Depends on visual angle I'd say...

As for Metallica, personally I would be happy to throw it away from the PA database (and not only Metallica). But what's wrong with 'progressive rap' if it finally turns out? If metal can be progressive, why rap cannot? at least in theory?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Man With Hat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2018 at 00:27
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ i think most of us agree it would be a great thing. I think the problem resides in going through the massive database and changing them all. As someone who worked on MMA specifically tagging EVERY Buckethead album, i can tell you that it is a chore but of course we could start slowly and cautiously, still though i think it would be a welcome upgrade :)
 

IIRC that problem lies with the system itself not supporting such a feature. It would require an upgrade which has been deemed to problematic to make for whatever reason. A higher up can correct me if my memory fails.
(I may be confusing this with something else, as there have been many things that have been suggested for this place. :p) 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote addictedlabel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2018 at 01:34
I think problem is not in new music, new prog  music, genre debates (i believe it's some kind of crying of people that too old to check new music, u know, it's ok thing when we get older then 30\35 for most people, some people have than problem younger or later).

Problem in database, that need hands to support it, update it, why you making own database when you have lots of databases, like RYM, discogs, musicbrain etc, maybe it's wasting of time and resources? Maybe PA need some integration to free resources for reviews, ratings, topics, comments?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ReactioninG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2018 at 16:03
It is possible that there will be a prog rock revival. The eighties has been creeping back into popular music, at least certain aesthetic elements of it. Music right now is at a total impasse. If there was a big change in the way it is distributed the floorboards will fall right through and some new and interesting music might see the light of day. It would probably call upon the past, the accomplishments of the 60s and 70s in particular, and you might see a real mirror of the Progressive Rock movement in that new music.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TiddK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2018 at 04:36
Interesting discussion. Just to throw my two pennorth into the mix:

I think there are two distinct strains of 'prog' that could be usefully separated.

1. Truly progressive acts, which in the modern era would mean Goldfrapp (at her best), Mercury Rev, Steven Wilson, The Besnard Lakes, Explosions In The Sky, and the like.

2. Bands that hark back to the classic 'prog' era of the 70s and try to recreate it (which I regard as NOT progressive!). Bands I'd put in that category - and this is in no way a reflection on the quality of their rock music - would be artists like IQ and Big Big Train.

There's a lot more to be said about progressive genres (let's not forget that soul music in the form  of The Temptations post-69, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, etc, were truly progressive in every sense that we mean by it), but I'd best leave it there for now, as a noob!
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