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Downloads, streaming & YouTube are indeed calculated in the Billboard charts these days!
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Other people who should be mentioned in various prog-related  ways:

Nightwish in Finland
Caetano Veloso in Brazil
Pino Daniele in Italy
Big Wreck in Canada
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Also, the Von Hertzen Brothers have had number one albums in Finland in 2008, 2011 and 2015.
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This album from Big Wreck made Canada's top 5 in 2017 (as did the two albums before it in 2012 and 2014) . You can hear the Dregs/Steve Morse and Rush here quite  easily:





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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Would Muse and Radiohead be considered prog or more alt-rock? Does Kate Bush fit the bill?

Your esteemed views are very welcome - especially outside the UK!

Radiohead - definitely! Also Goldfrapp, Mercury Rev, Steve Wilson, Flaming Lips, even Father John Misty, and many many other acts you may or may not have heard of such as The Besnard Lakes, and Explosions In The Sky.

However, even Radiohead are unlikely to trouble the singles charts these days. And what are the singles charts now anyway? A blend of reality show wannabes, streaming downloads, and god knows what else! I think they are pretty much worthless now and I doubt there's even a Top 20 show on the radio now.

Footnote: much of Kate Bush's output definitely is progressive, as is Björk's.


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Thank you for all your input, folks. Some great posts, even if at times it deviated towards albums rather than singles.

As several have implied (and I agree with), the golden age of the 'single' is sadly over. Downloads and radio play dominate - and the popular culture related to the 'single' is no more.

I agree that 'singles' were never important to rock bands (and definitely prog bands) other than a commercial boost (now not the case even) - but as a fan, it was so good to see 'your' band on mainstream media outlets and it did spread the word to some extent. There are people out there whose love of prog started with a popular, and maybe not even representative, single from a particular band. Nowadays, a 'single' release is merely a hint at rock-orientated radio stations to feature a particular song on their playlists (don't even start me on the playlist culture of some stations!)

Having taken up some comments, and trawled through the likes of Wikipedia, I am still of the opinion that the last straight down the line, traditional prog rock single in the UK Top 10 was 'Incommunicado' by Marillion in early 1987. I don't think anything released by Kate Bush, Muse or Radiohead was truly as pure prog as that - even if I'll concede it was prog-related. Even though 2012 saw a version of 'Running Up That Hill' following the Olympics - it wasn't new or created that popular ripple that a hit single used to do for artists or bands.

Still - it is good to see some modern prog bands still get some album success of sorts in the album charts (even if it is short-lived or in specialist charts) - let's face it - if everyone liked our music of choice, it wouldn't be so special!
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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

I am still of the opinion that the last straight down the line, traditional prog rock single in the UK Top 10 was 'Incommunicado' by Marillion in early 1987. I don't think anything released by Kate Bush, Muse or Radiohead was truly as pure prog as that - even if I'll concede it was prog-related.
Fair enough but to my ears a song like "There, There" and early 00's Radiohead is plenty more progressive than 'Incommunicado'.
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Interestingly, 'There There' was actually the one I thought about regarding Radiohead - so I see where you are coming from. Very much personal taste - but despite me being a fan of much of their output, I still think it is a touch indie/alt rather than prog. I know it's the old argument between what is 'prog' and what is 'progressive' which I don't want to re-open - so I think both these two singles represent the end of an era, I suppose, in slightly different ways.
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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Interestingly, 'There There' was actually the one I thought about regarding Radiohead - so I see where you are coming from. Very much personal taste - but despite me being a fan of much of their output, I still think it is a touch indie/alt rather than prog. I know it's the old argument between what is 'prog' and what is 'progressive' which I don't want to re-open - so I think both these two singles represent the end of an era, I suppose, in slightly different ways.
Which is also fine. I think Radiohead in that particular period were a uniquely progressive rock band. Moreso than most further out and more experimental bands of the same era. But they don't sound like "prog rock" the way I know many associate the term as an approach to composing songs, and a certain sound etc... But by now - out of the 10350 bands in the PA index there's thousands of bands that are progressive in one way or another but not prog rock. I focus on progressive as what it means, not prog as genre but understand the confusion/difference.  
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Interestingly, 'There There' was actually the one I thought about regarding Radiohead - so I see where you are coming from. Very much personal taste - but despite me being a fan of much of their output, I still think it is a touch indie/alt rather than prog. I know it's the old argument between what is 'prog' and what is 'progressive' which I don't want to re-open - so I think both these two singles represent the end of an era, I suppose, in slightly different ways.
Which is also fine. I think Radiohead in that particular period were a uniquely progressive rock band. Moreso than most further out and more experimental bands of the same era. But they don't sound like "prog rock" the way I know many associate the term as an approach to composing songs, and a certain sound etc... But by now - out of the 10350 bands in the PA index there's thousands of bands that are progressive in one way or another but not prog rock. I focus on progressive as what it means, not prog as genre but understand the confusion/difference.  

See, I have a major problem with that. To me, Radiohead are far more progressive than Marillion ever were.  While I agree with you that Marillion are more representative of a 'classic prog sound', that is indeed where the problem lies : how can a band be considered 'prog' if their music conforms to a certain expectation of 'approach to composing songs or a certain sound'? To me, that's a contradiction in terms, as any band that conforms to certain expectations cannot really be described as progressive. The Beatles WERE truly progressive as each album built upon and branched out from the previous one, and that IMO is how it should be, not conformity.
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