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Doing this exercise got me thinking... Shouldn't bands be listed under multiple genres, and instead the albums themselves be listed under the individual genres?  Saying that King Crimson is "eclectic prog" seems like a bit of a cop-out, and Yes' 90125 is symphonic is just wrong.
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Originally posted by Bowchicawowowtapeco Bowchicawowowtapeco wrote:

Doing this exercise got me thinking... Shouldn't bands be listed under multiple genres, and instead the albums themselves be listed under the individual genres?  Saying that King Crimson is "eclectic prog" seems like a bit of a cop-out, and Yes' 90125 is symphonic is just wrong.
This is an oft-repeated question/desire. It will likely never happen, and there are more than a few people here who don’t think it would be a good idea anyway.

It definitely makes senses to have albums defined by genre, rather than artists - as it is not at all uncommon for artists to produce albums across more than one genre during their career. Most websites do this, and some even allow multiple genre tagging per album. But even if the software allowed this change at PA (and a few people have suggested it won’t), the amount of time and effort to make the changes retrospectively to everything already in PA would be massive.

Personally, I pay little attention to genres in general, and even less to the genres in PA. In fact the only time I worry about whether a band fits the PA genres, is when I am evaluating it for inclusion. I kind of have to care somewhat, there. But the idea of ascribing black and white genres and attempting to pigeonhole artists and bands into them just seems almost antithetical to prog anyway, to me. I take any genre tag on this site with a pinch of salt. And sometimes the whole mine....

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I'm surprised people can remember that well!

The first three albums I owned were
ELP - Pictures At At Exhibition (symphonic)
Paul McCartney and Wings - Band On The Run (not prog!?)
The Who - By Numbers (proto?)

After that not totally sure
Neo Prog -Either IQ The Wake or Marillion - Misplaced Childhood
Prog folk - could easily have been a Steeleye Span compilation
RPI - possibly some Le Orme
Prog metal - probably Dream Theater - Images and Words
Eclectic - Peter Gabriel -Car (or has he been moved to another sub genre in which case King Crimson's debut)
Prog electronic - Has to be Tangerine Dream I guess but would be a compilation - Dream Sequence (Virgin 73-83).  



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Now that I come to think about it, I think my first Frank Zappa album might have been the outtakes compilation The Lost Episodes released in 1996 (and not Freak Out!). And for the Beatles: the Hey Jude compilation rather than Rubber Soul.
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CANTERBURY SCENE: Soft Machine - Third (2013)
CROSSOVER PROG: Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral (2012)
ECLECTIC PROG: King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King (2013)
HEAVY PROG: Rush - 2112 (2012)
JAZZ ROCK / FUSION: Al Di Meola - Casino (2014)
KRAUTROCK: Can - Tago Mago (2016)
POST-ROCK / MATH ROCK: Tera Melos - Patagonian Rats (2018)
PROG FOLK: Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick (2013)
PROGRESSIVE ELECTRONIC: Brian Eno - Another Green World (2015)
PSYCHEDELIC / SPACE ROCK: Pink Floyd - The Wall (2012)
RIO / AVANT-PROG: The Mothers Of Invention - Uncle Meat (2013)
ROCK PROGRESSIVO ITALIANO: Area - Caution Radiation Area (2016)
SYMPHONIC PROG: Camel - The Snow Goose (2012)
ZEUHL: Ruins - 1986-1992 (2017)
PROG-RELATED: Vangelis - Oceanic (2000)
PROTO-PROG: The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Axis: Bold As Love (2012)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2021 at 06:30
I didn't think of it when I created this thread, but adding the year you got each album is quite helpful. However, even without the year, I think one can reasonably guess when you got into prog just by the albums themselves for particular sub-genre (even with earlier albums present in the list).
 
 
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Originally posted by Bowchicawowowtapeco Bowchicawowowtapeco wrote:

Doing this exercise got me thinking... Shouldn't bands be listed under multiple genres, and instead the albums themselves be listed under the individual genres?  Saying that King Crimson is "eclectic prog" seems like a bit of a cop-out, and Yes' 90125 is symphonic is just wrong.
 
I had hoped that people would stay with the PA classification of albums, but I noticed that some albums are classified in an alternative way.
 
 
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As Steve said ,  something on an old wax cylinder.....LOL
But seriously I can't recall that far back....when I started buying lp's gas was 17cents a gallon and cigarettes were about 25cents.
None of those categories existed and we didn't call anything prog then.....

The first 'true prog' was Court by Crimson...bought that in April of 1970 but I had  The Beatles, Traffic, Procol Harum, Moody Blues , Floyd,  and a few other things including  Zep and Sabbath. And the guys in the dorm played some interesting things like Touch and SRC so there were some cool things around.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2021 at 09:55
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

As Steve said ,  something on an old wax cylinder.....LOL
But seriously I can't recall that far back....when I started buying lp's gas was 17cents a gallon and cigarettes were about 25cents.
None of those categories existed and we didn't call anything prog then.....

The first 'true prog' was Court by Crimson...bought that in April of 1970 but I had  The Beatles, Traffic, Procol Harum, Moody Blues , Floyd,  and a few other things including  Zep and Sabbath. And the guys in the dorm played some interesting things like Touch and SRC so there were some cool things around.

Pretty much what Doc says goes for me, although I was only 6 in 1970........but we used to walk to Thrifty Drug Store and buy a single scoop cone for a nickel....if you bought a dbl your dad had a good job, and a triple meant you family was rich!!!!

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