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jefmoret
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 12:27 |
Not a big grunge fan, but Soundgarden are amazing. More intelligent
songwriting than what is found in the works of their "peers"...let's
see AIC try to play in 11/8.
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Peace Frog
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 13:44 |
Soundgarden have deep lyrics and amazing vocals and all that jazz.
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goose
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 15:12 |
jefmoret wrote:
Not a big grunge fan, but Soundgarden are amazing. More intelligent songwriting than what is found in the works of their "peers"...let's see AIC try to play in 11/8.
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They have at least two tracks in 7/8
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:53 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
yargh wrote:
This is a perfect example of how genres can confuse and distort. The term "grunge" came about to describe hard rock music that came out at a particular time (late '80s-through-early '90s) by bands who looked the part as much as sounded like it. Initially, "grunge" was a label put on everything heavy that wasn't heavy metal. Typically they were in the Seattle scene, but not necessarily. These guys wore flannel, had sideburns... played in jeans and Chuck Taylors instead of tight leather pants and makeup... grunge. There *was* a conscious effort by many of these bands to distance themselves from the increasingly silly, uncool and artistically bankrupt genre of heavy metal. Soundgarden basically *were* heavy metal, except for their image. Asking why people don't "play grunge" anymore is pointless, because grugne isn't really a musical genre.
Neil Young was considered the "godfather of grunge" because he also played heavy music (with Crazy Horse) that wasn't heavy metal. Heretofore unclassifaible bands like Sonic Youth were considered a part of the grunge movement by association, although they aren't considered grunge in hindsight.
In my own opinion, Soundgarden made one really good album (Superunknown), Alice in Chains made none, Mudhoney made several, Stone Temple Pilots made none, Pearl Jam made two and Nirvana made one. And don't forget Dinosaur Jr, whose first four albums are really good, IMO. Gotta love the sludgey cover of that Peter Frampton tune.
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You should really check out Temple of the Dog ... IMO it's THE brilliant grunge album. It's not really grunge to me, it toys with many genres ... but I guess that considering the time it was released and the artists that participated, I guess you could call it grunge.
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I agree,Temple of the Dog is an amazing album.
Do you know that the whole album is a tribute to Andrew Wood,the singer of Mother Love Bone,who died of a heroin OD just pryor to MLB breaking big?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 17:27 |
^ no, I didn't know that. Sad story ...
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 17:32 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ no, I didn't know that. Sad story ... |
Very.Knowing that puts a lot of the songs on the album into perspective.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 17:35 |
^ yes, the albums kind of stands out from the usual grunge albums, it's much deeper and more spiritual. Say Hello To Heaven, Reach Down ... awesome songs.
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goose
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 19:36 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
yargh wrote:
This is a perfect example of how genres can confuse and distort. The term "grunge" came about to describe hard rock music that came out at a particular time (late '80s-through-early '90s) by bands who looked the part as much as sounded like it. Initially, "grunge" was a label put on everything heavy that wasn't heavy metal. Typically they were in the Seattle scene, but not necessarily. These guys wore flannel, had sideburns... played in jeans and Chuck Taylors instead of tight leather pants and makeup... grunge. There *was* a conscious effort by many of these bands to distance themselves from the increasingly silly, uncool and artistically bankrupt genre of heavy metal. Soundgarden basically *were* heavy metal, except for their image. Asking why people don't "play grunge" anymore is pointless, because grugne isn't really a musical genre.
Neil Young was considered the "godfather of grunge" because he also played heavy music (with Crazy Horse) that wasn't heavy metal. Heretofore unclassifaible bands like Sonic Youth were considered a part of the grunge movement by association, although they aren't considered grunge in hindsight.
In my own opinion, Soundgarden made one really good album (Superunknown), Alice in Chains made none, Mudhoney made several, Stone Temple Pilots made none, Pearl Jam made two and Nirvana made one. And don't forget Dinosaur Jr, whose first four albums are really good, IMO. Gotta love the sludgey cover of that Peter Frampton tune.
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You should really check out Temple of the Dog ... IMO it's THE brilliant grunge album. It's not really grunge to me, it toys with many genres ... but I guess that considering the time it was released and the artists that participated, I guess you could call it grunge.
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I agree,Temple of the Dog is an amazing album.
Do you know that the whole album is a tribute to Andrew Wood,the singer of Mother Love Bone,who died of a heroin OD just pryor to MLB breaking big? |
The same Andrew Wood who formerly sang for Malfunkshun! A real loss to rock music
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Runaway
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Posted: October 27 2005 at 20:06 |
Grunge is awesome! Temple Of The Dog is amazing!!!!! Soundgarden too!!! Nirvana and Pearl Jam too! Although I haven't heard Alice In Chains...
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 27 2005 at 21:25 |
Runaway wrote:
Grunge is awesome! Temple Of The Dog is amazing!!!!! Soundgarden too!!! Nirvana and Pearl Jam too! Although I haven't heard Alice In Chains... |
Check out Alice in Chains cd "Dirt".
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Badabec
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:11 |
Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are real good stuff.
My favourite song of soundgarden is "The day I tried to live".
Chris Cornell has a great voice.
I was sad when hearing him singing for audioslave which is a real bad band I think.
Maybe he'll do some soundgarden-kind stuff again.
Would be great!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 15:31 |
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 20:36 |
Badabec wrote:
Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are real good stuff.
My favourite song of soundgarden is "The day I tried to live". Chris Cornell has a great voice. I was sad when hearing him singing for audioslave which is a real bad band I think. Maybe he'll do some soundgarden-kind stuff again. Would be great!
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Do you know Chris Cornell's brother Peter sings for the prog band Somnambulist?
They are listed in the archives,check them out.
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 20:54 |
I'm not a grunge fan (my kids are) but I like many stuff from Alice In Chains and some stuff from Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. That's all folks!
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Bobby
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 13:00 |
I think grunge is ignored a bit in the mainstream. It mostly lives on through Kurt Cobain it seems. Sound Garden is okay, but in my opinion Alice In Chains is the best "grunge" band ever to exist, even though I think they aren't truly grunge, more like a bridge that connects metal and grunge.
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Badabec
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 15:05 |
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Badabec
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 15:07 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Badabec wrote:
Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains are real good stuff.
My favourite song of soundgarden is "The day I tried to live". Chris Cornell has a great voice. I was sad when hearing him singing for audioslave which is a real bad band I think. Maybe he'll do some soundgarden-kind stuff again. Would be great!
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Do you know Chris Cornell's brother Peter sings for the prog band Somnambulist?
They are listed in the archives,check them out. |
I'll check it out!
Thank you guys for all these informations.
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