THE FLOWER KINGS TOO CONTRIVED

So Lateralus is not contrived ?, IMO that's not true, from that list the only albums that are really good are the Par Lindh one and Dark Matter. But despite of loving dark matter i find it contrived too.

Kid A, Lateralus, and Deadwing are not good albums IMO

salmacis wrote: I'd never compare Camel to The Flower Kings in any way personally; Camel's music was always tight and very structured and The Flower Kings' is the exact opposite. However, at their best I suppose The Flower Kings do have the ability to transport the listener. I think though, Roine Stolt is arguably better in other projects- such as Transatlantic and The Tangent- as with other musicians, a tighter rein seems to be imposed.

I do compare them, and I don't see how Camel play a particularly "tight" music, considering that there are bands like King Crimson or VdGG. TFK are simply a much more diverse band than those of the 70s. They take all these influences and use them how they (let's face it: It's Roine alone who composes in TFK) see fit ... and while there are some TFK albums that contain extended improvisations that don't seem to go anywhere, there also are many tight compositions and - indeed - whole albums like Space Revolver or Retropolis which are quite tight.