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    Posted: April 12 2006 at 09:19

Ptooff! -- album cover

"Ptooff" (1967)

Originally released in 1967 on the band's label, Underground impresarios, "Ptooff!" is their first album. The London Underground Deviants ran the gamut of musical approaches throughout their three albums, touching on the roots of psychedelic, progressive, garage and politics. This album reflects a more psychedelic side of the band, although, you can hear elements of most of the aforementioned styles. Deviants members went on to such well know groups as Pink Fairies and, even Hawkwind.



SOCIAL DEVIANTS 
Ptoof (UK Underground Impresarios) 1967 (UK Decca) 1969 (UK Psycho) 1983
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Disposable (UK Stable) 1968 (Sire/London) 1969
Deviants #3 (Sire/London) 1969 (UK Transatlantic/Demon) 1989
Human Garbage (UK Psycho) 1984

Although this 1967 work is widely hailed as a prototype British Punk album, it has its experimental/progressive moments too. Unusually for a British band, the Deviants dwelt in roughly the same abrasive "primitivist" territory as '60s American psych/agit-punk pioneers like The MC5 and The Stooges; with a strongly satirical Fugs/Mothers influence as well. The lengthy songs "The Nothing Man" and "Deviation Street" feature quite advanced use of tape loops and rich/complex sound collage by John Cage student Jack Henry Moore. Though universally scorned/dismissed in 1967,  Ptooff! is well into its fourth decade of intriguing adventurous fans of  punk, psych and even progressive music.

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Disposable -- album cover

"Disposable" (1968)

No. 3 -- album cover

"#3" (1969)

Human Garbage -- album cover

"Human Garbage" (1984)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2006 at 14:18
Very original album covers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:16

I have the first 3 albums; interesting as in some ways they were precursors to The Pink Fairies, themselves considered more of a proto punk act. However, both The Deviants and The Pink Fairies could legitimately be included under 'psychedelic/space rock'- they were part of the same UK psychedelic scene as Hawkwind, Quintessence, Arthur Brown, Gong etc.

The most progressive album they recorded was the third one, with more reliance on keyboards than previous works. There's a definite Zappa/Beefheart influence to their work, but I'd vote yes- possibly under 'psychedelic/ space rock' though, but 'proto prog' is sound enough.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:27

Yes.
The Portobello / Ladbroke Grove area of West London was a hot-bed of psychedelia/proto prog.prog-folk at this time(1967-early 70s).One of it's main characters was John'Twink'Adler Who played in Pink Fairies,Tomorrow,Pretty Things and Shagrat with Larry Wallis and Steve Peregrine-Took ex Tyrannasaurus Rex.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:40

Thanks guys.

Drummer and vocalist Twink released a solo album in 1970 called "Think Pink", recorded with John Povey (mellotron, sitar), Steve Peregrin Took (vocals, guitars), Paul Rudolph (lead guitar), John Jnr. Wood and Honk (bass guitar), Wally Allen (piano), and also some members of PINK FAIRIES.

This is one the most psychedelic albums I have ever heard. A lysergic blend of vocals, guitar and sound effects. Some people describe their music as being similar to early Pink Floyd and The Pretty Things but I think it has a sound all to its own. This is a very creative album with each song unique in its own way. Highlights of the album are '10,000 words in a cardboard box', 'tiptoe on the highest hill', 'fluid, which has a sexual, erotic feel to it and 'the sparrow is a sign.' A must have for fans of psychedelic music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 12 2006 at 15:44
Think Pink is fantastic!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2006 at 03:52
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Think Pink is fantastic!


You said it!!!

I reckon The Deviants, Twink and the Pink Fairies are all owed a place on this site.




     
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2006 at 08:49
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Think Pink is fantastic!


You said it!!!

I reckon The Deviants, Twink and the Pink Fairies are all owed a place on this site.




     
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2006 at 13:16
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I have the first 3 albums; interesting as in some ways they were precursors to The Pink Fairies, themselves considered more of a proto punk act. However, both The Deviants and The Pink Fairies could legitimately be included under 'psychedelic/space rock'-

I saw the Pink Fairies twice  a few months either side of Neverneverland being release. First was a Royal Holloway College's summer graduation ball in June/July  (I think Brett Marvin & The Thunderbolts and Magna Carta were also on the bill ) with two drummers and even possibly two lead guitarists: a real turn on. Then the following November at Kingston Swimming Baths - the extreme volume levels and the crap acoustics of a boarded over swimmingpool  made PF sound dire -and the first gig I ever walked out of. But in both instance, proto-type metal on LSD not space rock - Uncle Harry's Last Freak Out/Teenage Rebel for instance.
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