’In Held Twas In I": first prog epic?

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I studied this subject briefly a while back, and here is what I found wrt long tracks. Some are obviously not prog but who knows what PA will add in the future. Seventh Sons, Zappa and The Doors are here so depending on the definition these could be argued as the having giving the first prog epic. Personally, I feel Procol Harum's "In Held T'was In I" is the first true prog epic, see the release date listed above. But you decide yourself:

Metamatic Ritual (13:56) 1962 Alan Watts “This is it” (Proto-Proto-Psychedelic) 
Raga (32:09) recorded 1964 / released 1968 Seventh Sons “Raga (4 AM at Frank’s)”
Desolation Row (11:24) 1965 Bob Dylan “Highway 61 Revisited”
Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands (11:00) 1966 Bob Dylan “Blonde on Blonde”
East-West (13:18) 1966 The Paul Butterfield Blues Band “East-West”
Going Home (11:14) 1966 The Rolling Stones “Aftermath”
The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet (12:17) 1966 Frank Zappa “Freak out!”
The End (11:35) 1967 The Doors “The Doors”
Alice’s Restaurant Massacree (18:20) 1967 Arlo Guthrie “Alice’s Restaurant”
Interstellar Overdrive (16:46) 1967? Pink Floyd “Tonite let’s all make love in London…plus”
Nick's Boogie (11:50) recorded 1967 / released 1999 Pink Floyd “Pink Floyd London 1966-1967”
Revelation (18:56) 1967 Love “Da Capo”
When The Music's Over (11:00) 1967 The Doors “Strange Days”
Viola Lee Blues (10:01) 1967 The Grateful Dead “The Grateful Dead”
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (17:05) 1967 Iron Butterfly "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida"
How Suite It Is (12:16) 1967 Jefferson Airplane “After Bathing At Baxter’s”.
The Progress Suite (25:) 1967 Chad Stuart and Jeremy Clyde “Of Cabbages and Kings”.
Time has come today (11:) 1967 The Chamber Brothers.
Fantasy (10:13) 1967 Fifty Foot Hose "Cauldron".
Mass In F Minor (?:?) 1967 Electric Prunes.
In held Twas in I (17:31) 1968 Procol Harum “Shine on Brightly”
The Fool (12:07) 1968 Quicksilver Messenger Service "Quicksilver Messenger Service".
I Put My Hands On Your Shoulder (13:36) 1968 Groep 1850 "Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth".
1983...Merman I Should Turn To Be (13:46) 1068 The Jimi Hendrix Experience "Electric Ladyland".
Voodoo Child (15:05) 1968 The Jimi Hendrix Experience "Electric Ladyland".
Sister Ray (17:00) 1968 The Velvet Underground "White Light / White Heat".
River deep, Mountain high (10:12) 1968 Deep Purple “Book of Taliesyn”
In the Stable of the Sphinx (11:10) recorded 1968 / released 2004 East Of Eden ”Mercator Projected”
Ars Longa Vita Brevis suite (19.26) November 1968 The Nice “Ars Longa Vita Brevis”
What Love (Suite) (19:15) 1968 The Collectors.
Lumpy Gravy (31:39) 1968 Frank Zappa “Lumpy Gravy”.
Ogden's Nut Gone Flake (?:?) 1968 The Small Faces.
Dark Star (?:?) 1968 Grateful Dead "Two From The Vault".
Fried Neckbones (10:10) recorded 1968 / released 1997 Santana "Live At The Fillmore 1968"
Soul Sacrifice (14:30) recorded 1968 / released 1997 Santana "Live At The Fillmore 1968"
Freeway (30:15) recorded 1968 / released 1997 Santana "Live At The Fillmore 1968"

Edited by earlyprog - January 26 2007 at 10:40

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earlyprog Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Collaborator Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2086	Posted: January 26 2007 at 10:25
	I studied this subject briefly a while back, and here is what I found wrt long tracks. Some are obviously not prog but who knows what PA will add in the future. Seventh Sons, Zappa and The Doors are here so depending on the definition these could be argued as the having giving the first prog epic. Personally, I feel Procol Harum's "In Held T'was In I" is the first true prog epic, see the release date listed above. But you decide yourself: Metamatic Ritual (13:56) 1962 Alan Watts “This is it” (Proto-Proto-Psychedelic) Raga (32:09) recorded 1964 / released 1968 Seventh Sons “Raga (4 AM at Frank’s)” Desolation Row (11:24) 1965 Bob Dylan “Highway 61 Revisited” Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands (11:00) 1966 Bob Dylan “Blonde on Blonde” East-West (13:18) 1966 The Paul Butterfield Blues Band “East-West” Going Home (11:14) 1966 The Rolling Stones “Aftermath” The Return Of The Son Of Monster Magnet (12:17) 1966 Frank Zappa “Freak out!” The End (11:35) 1967 The Doors “The Doors” Alice’s Restaurant Massacree (18:20) 1967 Arlo Guthrie “Alice’s Restaurant” Interstellar Overdrive (16:46) 1967? Pink Floyd “Tonite let’s all make love in London…plus” Nick's Boogie (11:50) recorded 1967 / released 1999 Pink Floyd “Pink Floyd London 1966-1967” Revelation (18:56) 1967 Love “Da Capo” When The Music's Over (11:00) 1967 The Doors “Strange Days” Viola Lee Blues (10:01) 1967 The Grateful Dead “The Grateful Dead” In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (17:05) 1967 Iron Butterfly "In-a-Gadda-da-Vida" How Suite It Is (12:16) 1967 Jefferson Airplane “After Bathing At Baxter’s”. The Progress Suite (25:) 1967 Chad Stuart and Jeremy Clyde “Of Cabbages and Kings”. Time has come today (11:) 1967 The Chamber Brothers. Fantasy (10:13) 1967 Fifty Foot Hose "Cauldron". Mass In F Minor (?:?) 1967 Electric Prunes. In held Twas in I (17:31) 1968 Procol Harum “Shine on Brightly” The Fool (12:07) 1968 Quicksilver Messenger Service "Quicksilver Messenger Service". I Put My Hands On Your Shoulder (13:36) 1968 Groep 1850 "Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth". 1983...Merman I Should Turn To Be (13:46) 1068 The Jimi Hendrix Experience "Electric Ladyland". Voodoo Child (15:05) 1968 The Jimi Hendrix Experience "Electric Ladyland". Sister Ray (17:00) 1968 The Velvet Underground "White Light / White Heat". River deep, Mountain high (10:12) 1968 Deep Purple “Book of Taliesyn” In the Stable of the Sphinx (11:10) recorded 1968 / released 2004 East Of Eden ”Mercator Projected” Ars Longa Vita Brevis suite (19.26) November 1968 The Nice “Ars Longa Vita Brevis” What Love (Suite) (19:15) 1968 The Collectors. Lumpy Gravy (31:39) 1968 Frank Zappa “Lumpy Gravy”. Ogden's Nut Gone Flake (?:?) 1968 The Small Faces. Dark Star (?:?) 1968 Grateful Dead "Two From The Vault". Fried Neckbones (10:10) recorded 1968 / released 1997 Santana "Live At The Fillmore 1968" Soul Sacrifice (14:30) recorded 1968 / released 1997 Santana "Live At The Fillmore 1968" Freeway (30:15) recorded 1968 / released 1997 Santana "Live At The Fillmore 1968" Edited by earlyprog - January 26 2007 at 10:40

salmacis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Content Addition Joined: April 10 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3928	Posted: January 26 2007 at 10:33
	^Excellent work, earlyprog, and a prime example of why I have shied away from what some do here in labelling albums or songs as 'the first prog album/epic/track' whatever. A whole host of tracks there which one would hardly expect on the site but could be justifiably said to have been influential to the development of the genre. BTW, I seem to recall 'Mass In F Minor' was about 26 minutes or so.

salmacis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Content Addition Joined: April 10 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3928	Posted: January 31 2007 at 13:17
	I remember another one in my collection by The Seeds, a US garage/psych act, who did an epic called 'Up In Her Room' on their second album 'A Web Of Sound'. That track lasts 14.44 or so in its full form but I think also has been released in an edited form around 9 minutes.

Eetu Pellonpaa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 17 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 4828	Posted: February 02 2007 at 15:45
	The end sequence of this epic on their "Edmonton live" is just great! If you want to check out one obscurer but a bit siilar and quite good epic try WIGWAM's "Henry's" from their 1st album "Hard'n'Horny".