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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2006 at 13:13
A little effortfinding the right keywords to nail specifics on a search engine, but Mahler was the man:
Symphony No. 8, 'Symphony of a Thousand' in E flat
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2006 at 22:00
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

A little effortfinding the right keywords to nail specifics on a search engine, but Mahler was the man:
Symphony No. 8, 'Symphony of a Thousand' in E flat
  
 
My man Mahler was a hard pill to swallow for the stuffed shirts of the day. A true prog star in his own right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2006 at 12:06
Absolutely agree with The Rite Of Spring, and regarding The Firebird,  I'd go for the complete ballet over the Suite. Antal Dorati conducting the London SO on Mercury Living Presence is would make an excellent choice for the latter.

I'd also highly recommend composer Bela Bartok: 

Concerto For Orchestra
Music For Strings, Percussion, and Celesta
The Miraculous Mandarin
The Piano Concertos

These are good symphonic pieces to start with.  Loud, agressive, and dissonant. 

Also, the String Quartets.  If you want to hear music that (imo) influenced Robert Fripp, check these out. Sometimes they sound downright Crimsonesque.









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2006 at 10:31
"Threnody to the victims of Hiroshima" (Penderecki) could be described as violent. Irritating would be a better adjective though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2006 at 17:04
There is a lot of support for Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" here. When I was VERY young my parents took me to the cinema to see a Disney film called "Fantasia" made in 1940. They say if you can listen to "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" without thinking of Mickey Mouse you are truly cultured!!! Though seriously folks....this was a good film, Stokowski was a good conductor and there was some great music in the movie, "Rite" and  Beethoven's "Symphony no.6" was my first introduction to classical music and i never forgot it. I have many versions of these classics and are still amongst my all times faves....though i do still think of MM, dinosaurs and mythical creatures, i must be very uncultured!!! LOL
 
 
recommended recordings of "Rite of Spring"...
 
Claudio Abbado/LSO DG
Von Karajan/Berlin Philharmonic  DG
Simon Rattle/CBSO EMI
Valery Geriev/Kirov Orchestra Philips
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2006 at 18:41
I'd check out Mahler's 5th and Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" and "Petrouchka".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2006 at 21:59
Originally posted by Australian Australian wrote:

Some of Schoenberg's music is god damn strange, and loud as well.




And annoying.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 12:14




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 12:20
Gustav holst "The Planets Suite".
"Mars, The Bringer Of War" and "Jupiter, The Bringer of jollity" is very loud at times Big smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 12:24
Originally posted by Dragon Phoenix Dragon Phoenix wrote:


Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:


"Pictures from an Exhibition" by Ravel features some strong and powerful moments.
    


Just to put the record straight: this is a Mussorgsky composition. Ravel orchestrated it.



Of course, that's why i quote the Ravel orchestrated version.


    
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 14:31
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

There is a lot of support for Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" here. When I was VERY young my parents took me to the cinema to see a Disney film called "Fantasia" made in 1940. They say if you can listen to "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" without thinking of Mickey Mouse you are truly cultured!!! Though seriously folks....this was a good film, Stokowski was a good conductor and there was some great music in the movie, "Rite" and  Beethoven's "Symphony no.6" was my first introduction to classical music and i never forgot it. I have many versions of these classics and are still amongst my all times faves....though i do still think of MM, dinosaurs and mythical creatures, i must be very uncultured!!
 
There's Mussorgsky in Fantasia as well, "A Night on Bald Mountain".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 16:14
Rite of Spring has to be top, and I can't believe I'm seconding Penderecki's "Threnody..." - usually I'm the only one mentioning it - great call

Messaien's "Turangalila Symphonie" is another good one, and don't underestimate the power of Beethoven's 5th. Play that baby loud enough and you'll have all the demons of hell hammering on your door... or is that the neighbours?

Grieg's "Peer Gynt" suite and Verdi's Requiem contain some fabulous noisy bits too - especially the "Dies Irae" section of the latter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2006 at 02:07
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Gustav holst "The Planets Suite".
"Mars, The Bringer Of War" and "Jupiter, The Bringer of jollity" is very loud at times Big smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2006 at 05:26
Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

A little effortfinding the right keywords to nail specifics on a search engine, but Mahler was the man:
Symphony No. 8, 'Symphony of a Thousand' in E flat
  
 
My man Mahler was a hard pill to swallow for the stuffed shirts of the day. A true prog star in his own right.
 
One can sense true presence of death in his uncomplete 10th symphony, and in the final sequence of the sixth. Woderful composer!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2006 at 11:30
pictures at an exhibition is mussorsgsky
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2006 at 11:32
How About "Uranus, The Magician" by Gustav Holst?
The intro features some loud brass instrument or something.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2006 at 12:18
Was thinking about a topic like this a week or two ago after listening to Nightwish's Ghost Love Score.  That song in particular but the whole album has some loud, violent symphony passages which are great and had me thinking that if I could find classical music along those lines, I would be interested. 

I just don't know if I want to go down that path of buying a bunch of classical stuff hoping it would be to my taste.  I have enough to tackle with my prog interests.  Is there a classicalarchives.com?
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