Non-Prog Rock Band Knowledge Poll

Zebra, 1D, and Black Veil Brides

Luna wrote: Zebra, 1D, and Black Veil Brides Don't care for them, but don't hate them.

Edited by StaaViinsZ - September 16 2014 at 23:28

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Luna wrote: A friend of mine is a huge 1D fan so I will admit to liking a couple of their songs. Currently, my favorite bands would be Godflesh, Techno Animal, Leonard Cohen, Car Seat Headrest, and New Order. I probably forgot something that I really like, but oh well.

Sorry for maybe getting a little too talky everyone... I realized how much i was talking after i looked at my two posts XD 

Own albums from:
- Y & T (all studio albums! Mean Streak was the first album I bought, along with Never Surrender by Triumph)
- Tesla (own 3 albums)
- Ratt (own two albums)

Familiar with:
- Stryper
- Zebra
- Tony Carey
- Black n' Blue

Heard of but don't actually know:
- Ace of Base
- One Direction
- Pretty Maids
- Crimson Glory

Stryper Ace of Base Tesla Black Veil Brides One Direction Crimson Glory Dragon Force And I'm not sure I'm happy I know any of them. The painful failure of Fire and the Flames on guitar hero still haunts my dreams, or maybe it's just that crappy of a song. Interesting lineup of bands. Also, if you really wanted to, you could probably call Crimson Glory progressive metal, but only because power metal is pretty much progressive metal minus two or three annoying bridges and guitar solos.

Why wouldn't you be happy to know them? XD.

I'm happy to finally found someone who's heard of Crimson Glory! Seems like that band is so obscure.

Hm, I have in the past thought Gamma Ray's Track "Rebellion in Dreamland" seemed to be progressively influenced, though in the past others have blatently denied they could've even been remotely influenced by progressive artists AT ALL (lol).

Also nice to see you've heard of DragonForce, however I will admit I have issues with liking their music... I like the style, I like how it's very epic, but for some reason at times it comes off as "Too happy" and bright, and seems like it's missing a certain amount of melody or catchiness. That said, I still choose to like them as a group so far. But that might change in the future.

Regardless, I respect them for doing Neo-classically influenced power metal, despite my quality concerns XD. I think they're cool.

Own albums from: - Y & T (all studio albums! Mean Streak was the first album I bought, along with Never Surrender by Triumph) - Tesla (own 3 albums) - Ratt (own two albums) Familiar with: - Stryper - Zebra - Tony Carey - Black n' Blue Heard of but don't actually know: - Ace of Base - One Direction - Pretty Maids - Crimson Glory

So cool that you know of some of them.

Tony Carey, to be honest, seemed like something I "shouldn't" like, but yet, I still did. I have his album "Tough City" or something like that on Vinyl. Lots of skips, but like I said, I shouldn't like it, but I do XD.

So you're a Y & T fan? Nice. I always thought they were like Pop Hard Rock, sort of like Hair Metal but softer usually.

But I don't know. They seem like they would be pretty cool. What are they like?

Interestingly enough, Godflesh cite Leonard Cohen as a large influence on their music. They both have albums titled Songs of Love and Hate and Godflesh have used some of Cohen's lyrics in their own songs. Techno Animal is a side project of a member of Godflesh and it has his more experimental stuff (not really metal, but ambient, jazz, industrial, and some hip-hop). It's a shame it's defunct because it's arguably my favorite musical act. I'm a shameless fan of synthpop and darkwave and really don't know why. Those songs you sent are pretty cool. They were uplifting and energetic and inspired me to re-create a Rocky montage. I don't mind boobs but I'm sure someone out there's offended. -Not Steve

Okay, the Godflesh-Leonard Cohen thing, that just seems WEIRD.

I mean, just lol. Leonard Cohen influencing Godflesh? What in the world?! XD. Hahaha!

Forgive me, struck me as quite odd. But hey, Bach & Beethoven inspired Yngwie Malmsteen, just proves, influences for awesome artists can come from the strangest places.

Hm. Techno Animal is a side project of a member of Godflesh. That I wouldn't have expected. Then again, who would've expected singing as a side project of Leonard Nimoy XP!

Anyway, liking Synthpop is no stranger to me. That used to be my favorite genre of music! Darkwave on the other hand, I have not heard of. But I'm assuming it's like a dark version of new wave? XD.

Anyways, awesome, cool. Some of the old Stuff I used to like was like the Cars, Genesis (On Abacab), just 80s Pop stuff mostly. I still like some of it. Maybe that's why I don't mind Keyboards in metal as much :P.

You know, as long as they don't "Take Over".

Reminds me of something I always thought was really funny.

John Norum (Lead Guitarist for Europe) left the band shortly after recording the Final Countdown album, saying He didn't like the image the band was getting. They were becoming like this teeny bopper band, and the keyboards were taking over (I paraphrase).

Then, he went and recorded a solo album called "Total Control", and it had practically as many keyboards as The Final Countdown, and the singer even sounded a little like Joey Tempest as times! Was so strange lol. Made you wonder if the real reason he left was more because he liked to be a little more in control XD.

And thanks! Glad you liked the songs.

Not entirely sure what you mean when you say "Recreate a rocky montage", either you're as crazy as me jumping around next to your bedroom mirror rocking out, or you're on Youtube.

Either way, you're cool enough ^_^ XP.

As for the covers, yes well, that's just what it is. I try not to look at it too long if I think it's going to mess with me. I like the music, but yeah, the covers are not good sometimes. I honestly don't pay much attention to it after a while, and then when I show it to someone else I have to remember "Oh, that cover isn't very nice" and just say "Hey the cover isn't good on this, I like the song a lot though".

So yeah anyway, I don't advocate the covers, but the music is good. So just my thing there.

Have a good day, "Not-Steve" :P.
:)

- Is-Steve ;)



Edited by StaaViinsZ - September 20 2014 at 18:11

StaaViinsZ wrote: Own albums from: - Y & T (all studio albums! Mean Streak was the first album I bought, along with Never Surrender by Triumph) - Tesla (own 3 albums) - Ratt (own two albums) Familiar with: - Stryper - Zebra - Tony Carey - Black n' Blue Heard of but don't actually know: - Ace of Base - One Direction - Pretty Maids - Crimson Glory So you're a Y & T fan? Nice. I always thought they were like Pop Hard Rock, sort of like Hair Metal but softer usually. But I don't know. They seem like they would be pretty cool. What are they like?

Bluesy (sometimes) hard rock, occasionally dipping in to hair metal.  They started out in the mid 70s under the name Yesterday & Today and released two albums on London Records.  Changed their name to Y & T (what their fans called them anyway) and release Earthshaker on A&M Records in 1981.  Probably their best album, with two classic power ballads "Rescue Me" (the song that made me fall in love with them) and "I Believe In You" (massive wonderful guitar solos!).  Three more good (IMHO) albums followed.

The dipped in to the hair metal style with the fairly dreadful single "Summertime Girls" in 1985 (and as a "bonus" put it on both their 1985 albums Open Fire (live) and Down For The Count).  DFTC is a decent album, but they really went downhill when they moved to Geffen Records for Contagious and Ten.  After Ten they broke up.  Reformed for two 90s albums (Musically Incorrect (1995) and Endangered Species (1997)), which I never even heard of until many years later.  They were re-released together as Incorrect Species a few years ago (2009 I think), which was the first time I was able to hear them.  Not as good as their classics, but still pretty good (and much better than their two previous ones).

Their first two albums were also re-released together around the same time, as OneTwo.  My first listen to them as well.  Decent, though the second was taken from a poor source and doesn't have good sound.

Finally, they released Facemelter in 2010.  Decent, but nothing really new or outstanding.  I saw them finally in concert the same year and loved it if only for the memories.  Only two original band members remained, and the bass player actually died of cancer shortly after!    (I had wondered why he seemed rather out of sorts at the show.)

Dave Meniketti is the band leader, vocalist and lead guitarist, and he is amazing, even if the songs don't always live up.  Very tasty, blues style leads.  He still tours every year with some version of Y&T.  Plays on Monsters of Rock cruise each year, I believe, along with shows in his native California, Europe and sometimes Japan (where they were pretty "big" back in the day.)

Here's an interesting thing from Dave's wikipedia page!
Mr. Bungle guitarist Trey Spruance said in an interview with Kerrang! magazine in 1991: "... of course, I owe it [his guitar playing speed] all to Y&T. Dave Meniketti is my god."

Don't listen to them much anymore (and DFTC has never been released on CD except in Japan, so I don't have it any longer), but they are still "comfort food" music when I do.

I wish I'd never heard of Ace of Base