As is open to all bands not just prog it has to be Kraftwerk.

I've only heard American Woman.

Metallica
Tangerine Dream

But rather than simply offer that curmudgeonly answer and walk away, since it is a good question, I will respectfully say this.

FUGG IF I KNOW

 

I would not be surprised if Miles Davis is way up there too..

Rush has said many time Yes was their big influence ---and I think that it begins Yes.

Kraftwerk and Miles were and still are vastly more influential on not just one scene but dozens, literally. The music world doesn't always stop at the prog gates - sometimes we tend to forget that in here amongst the Rush and Genesis fumes.   

OK name me a band that were influenced by ELP (apart from T********t).

 

^This....

 

But are we talking about influence back in the day or from the 80's on...?

Fair enough, I'm not really aware of Le Orme but Triumvirat aren't allowed. My point was I can't think of many bands that mixed up classical music and rock in a 3 piece keyboards dominated format like ELP.

Alright, I see. 

How about Atomic Rooster then? While still sporting their own sound, I still hear a lot of influence from Emerson in Vincent Crane's playing. (then again that's probably down to the period with The Nice more than ELP now that I think of it)

Also, Triumvirat aren't allowed?

 

In that case I'll say equal parts KC, Genesis, and Floyd....they all have influenced a large number of bands over the years both past and present. I don't hear as much Yes influence in bands as those three.

Only because I'm quoting presdoug and I knew he'd mention them straight away  (and I'm aware of their ELP influence)

These guys sound like ELP on some terrifying drug. They're also normally a three piece band with organs, drums and bass. This new one called Atlantis does feature one of my favourite modern guitarist in Reine Fiske though, but the heart of their sound still remains largely unchanged.

A - In Progressive Rock : 1- Genesis 2- KC 3- Yes 4- Rush 5- Pink Floyd 6- ELP

B - In Rock genre : Pink Floyd and Rush

C - In Metal genre : Metallica and DT

D - In General : Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream and Metallica and Pink Floyd

I think most influential artist of Prog Rock is Genesis. You can see that very clear. If we zoom to quality of Prog bands that influenced by Genesis you can see bands like : Citizen Cain - Simon Says - 5 bridges - The Watch - Agents of Mercy - Flower Kings - Glass Hammer (not all albums of them ) - Transatlantic and more. Some of these bands can be influential for other bands like The Flower Kings.

And there are too many "Genesis Clone" bands that I don't want to talk about them. I know ELP and KC and RUSH and Yes and PF and ... are influential in "Prog Rock" but I can't Ignore Genesis affect in this genre of music. Genesis is Icon of many of Symphonic and Neo Prog great bands.

Guldbamsen wrote: Alright, I see.  How about Atomic Rooster then? While still sporting their own sound, I still hear a lot of influence from Emerson in Vincent Crane's playing.

 

Guldbamsen wrote: I thought of another one (as a matter of fact I'm listening to their newest right now), Elephant9 from Norway. These guys sound like ELP on some terrifying drug.

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I always found Cranes keyboard work heavier,more built on menace, and less elaborate  that Emerson's and given that he essential entered the music scene in 67 with The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown I'd find it surprising if he was influenced by The Nice. Maybe they just have some elements of play that are similar.

 

I've always thought of Elephant9 as more of a heavy jazz fusion power trio than a Classical & Rock influenced band  like ELP but listening to Dodovoodoo again you may be right though it does sound a lot more fuzz keyboards than I'm used to with Emerson. Good spot.

also Par Lindh Project (Sweden) and Mastermind (USA) 

but apart from that what else have the Romans ever done for us

But at least Magma have had some influence...

For the most influential I think it's question of making the count, but surely Genesis, Pink Floyd, Yes, King Crimson (today more than before), and don't forget Emerson Lake and Palmer, especially in Eastern Europe.

 

 

Yep. This poll just confirms my belief that people on this site will vote Genesis on a poll regardless of the title. It's annoying to say the least.

Funny thing I voted Genesis but it was a genuine answer. I think people know that I am not beholden to Genesis but I hear their ideas in so many modern prog bands its really hard to ignore their influence on the prog scene.

Some featured here on PA:

 

Moving to more crossover bands, Supertramp are undeniably influenced by Floyd.  Yes, they are also influenced by other great rock bands but that's not the point.  Floyd are to rock as Miles standards are to jazz, they are all over the place, creeping into the output of many bands one way or the other.  Queensryche's Silent Lucidity is a definite Floyd-inspired case.  Especially the "Hush now don't you cry" verse evokes Mother.  In the case of bands not listed on PA, Tears for Fears were surely influenced by Floyd.  I could literally go on and on.    And this is only with respect to their more popular Gilmour/Waters 70s epoch.  Piper..and Saucerful...are also immensely influential albums, especially so on the Krautrock sub genre of prog.  Doors was also great source material but I would be surprised if Floyd weren't a source. Ah, remembered one more. What about Eloy's Ocean album?  When I heard it last, which is so long ago that I can no longer recall vividly,  I found it almost too Floyd-like to persist. 

It also very eloquently, perhaps unintentionally, describes the difference between 'influence' and 'copycatting' - the latter often mistaken for the former. It is possible for a band to have Floyd influences without ever sounding like Floyd.

 

Couldn't agree more.

That band is hilarious for how obvious they want to sound like PF. Cringe-worthy. 

Coincidentally I just happened to listen to some Astra this morning and noticed a strong KC influence which hadn't occurred to me previously.Thing is I don't always recognise it and KC is perhaps a little harder to pick up on I suppose.

Eloy were indeed very Floydian sounding right through to Planets and Time To Turn. Much better drums and bass though

 

Thank you again micky, and for sure it would be a great pleasure to meet you, I'll be there! Oh yeah, I will be there!
 
P.S.: Necromonkey - don't know this song, I will have to improvise hahahah...
 

 

It would be awesome indeed! I'm already fancing just one year earlier... well so I hope because of my 'holy' vacations next year, it would be fantastic!, btw it would be my very first time there, in NJ and NYC, really nice to know the details micky.

 

Thanks for the link! I'll check their music out as soon as I can, glad to know that about Mathias, it speaks great for a musician and I think it should always be an inherent characteristic of the GREAT musicians.

 

Duh, Gilmour IS a vital part of Floyd.  I don't get your logic.  Whatever Gilmour did on his solo albums also flows from his work with Floyd, so they are not mutually exclusive. I haven't checked that May influence on Petrucci but I wouldn't rule out Queen as an influence on DT.  DT have covered both Queen and Floyd, apart from DP, Rainbow, Iron Maiden.  I think that is a good indication of whether or not those are among their influences.  I wouldn't doubt that those bands influenced them. Surely, some of the greatest 70s rock bands influenced a modern metal band that carried on in the ambitious 70s vein of rock (as opposed to punk minimalism)?

 

 Mamma mia... hahah , I know pretty well what you are talking about, my mother is italian's daughter. 

Oh yes, each to his own and all that.  Fine.  What I don't get is just because Mr.Steve doesn't think so, one of the most influential bands in rock music did not influence more than a couple of bands?  The band with some of the most iconic rock albums does not have enough originality for other bands to derive from it?  You have to really make a stronger case than that to back up your statement before you clam up.  

Kate Bush - Breathing.  It could even be a case where the song 're-influenced' Floyd in turn, because Breathing shares uncanny similarities with High Hopes.   Especially the chords on that last chorus/coda, it's a lot like the chords on "The grass was greener...".

Tears for Fears - Sowing the Seeds of Love. Even the very vocal delivery is a lot like Waters.  

In the case of U2, Edge himself has cited Dogs as a key influence so I need go no further.  

I think personal preferences are clouding judgment here.  Floyd may not have been as musical as some of the out and out prog rock acts.  But that does not and never has had a bearing on whether any artist's music could influence that of others.  Nobody said Whitney's power ballad format was interesting.  But it is parroted endlessly by contestants on music reality shows.  Commercial success itself is usually a good enough incentive to want to derive/borrow/imitate, as applicable.

 

First off, like most people, you confuse influence with imitation. They are not the same thing. Silent Lucidity is a facsimile of a Pink Floyd song, and that is not influence. Michael Kaman's score should helped to give that away along with the myriad of Floyd recording tricks.

 

The rest of the album, btw, owes no 'influence' to Floyd. The following song's are Queensryche's alone: Best that I Can, The Thin Line, Jet City Woman, Della Brown, Another Rainy Night, Empire, Resistance and Hand On Heart. 

 

Are your starting to realize the difference between influence and imitation?

I think we have different "Influence Definition". Some guys think influence equal to Copy and Clone BUT this isn't correct IMO. I think Copy or Clone music is "Un-valuable " and I don't want to talk about these kind of music. Influence is far from Copy. Maybe you can't recognize all influences parts or elements because they (influences parts or ...) may hide in deeper layer of one song. You can't say : I can find all of influences parts and I have more abilities than everyone! 

 

Hey Micky it's very interesting what you are telling me, I believe too that some of the important facts of our lifes are truly tied to our fate, seeming to happen especially in crucial moments. By the way I'm married with an argentinian beauty of great character, well not from such an opposite end of the earth hahah, that's the power of love isn't it?

Confusion?  No, I don't think there is any confusion, neither from your side nor mine.  What I am quite sure of is you are pretty adept at shifting the goalposts as per your convenience.  If it's just influence you are interested in, I have already established that a few pages now.  I believe it was you who introduced the wrinkle that there are no Floyd-clones like Genesis-neo prog (I will come to this point a bit later).  And it was in this context I pointed out slabs of music that are very Floyd-like even in songs of bands that would not count Floyd as a dominant influence.  Er, I am afraid you first need to decide whether your original question was really one of sincere inquiry or are you just trying to manufacture arguments that 'help' you conclude that no influence is significant as long as the source is Floyd?

 

Anyhow, we'll start with Silent Lucidity.  First off, no, it's not a facsimile.  The song actually has metal riffs in the background during the spoken voice bit so that's not like Floyd at all.  And Tate's delivery is pure metal again, especially once he gets out of the low pitched intro.  A facsimile would have to be an exact or near exact facsimile.  You don’t have to take my word for it as far as the meaning of the word goes.  According to the Merriam Webster dictionary as well, facsimile is “an exact copy”.  You may shift goal posts if you wish (though that makes the discussion process much more difficult) but you cannot change the plain meaning of English words. 

 

Secondly, it has nothing to do with Kamen’s arrangements or Floyd’s recording tricks.  I cited the VOCAL MELODY of the opening verse, which is very similar in places to Mother.  As far as I know, note-similarity in vocal melodies cannot be attributed to arrangements or recording tricks.  I am also aware that the band as such is not strongly influenced by Floyd and, though Empire is a pretty boring album, I too do not recall any Floyd like moments in say Jet City Woman.  Here’s the thing.  Nearly everybody has heard a Floyd album at one point or the other.  With the result that there is a deeply embedded Floyd influence that creeps in at some point or the other in the work of many, many bands.  My friend is a prog rock musician and not a particularly big fan of Floyd though he does respect them and he has, by self admission, been influenced by Floyd in writing some guitar parts.  Prog rockers, I find, think influence is just structure or arrangements.  That is a very prog, and narrow, point of view.  There’s also the meat: the vocal melodies, the riffs, the chords, that is, the parts.  While Floyd may not have stuck to definite patterns in the way they develop music owing to their flexibility, there are definite patterns in their melodies, riffs and chords that Floyd fans can certainly recognise immediately as the signature of their band.  Some such Floyd fans, serious or casual, go on to become musicians and traces of Floyd can be found in their music.  To argue that such influence is insignificant would be disingenuous in the extreme because that would tantamount to saying that significant influence of Beatles is measured only by those bands that cloned them and not by those who were inspired by them to make music.  And by the way, to reiterate, Silent Lucidity is not a one off.  I can go on with many, many such examples of various bands from a variety of genres.  You may pretend that is not influence if it suits you, but I shall recognise it quickly for what it is: a pretence and no more.

 

Moving on to the question of what genres Floyd spawned, I think it would take a strong case of musical blindness to deny their role in the development of pyschedelic and space rock and, through their Barrett albums, on Krautrock as well.  Sure, they share that honour with Doors, Jefferson Airplane and to a lesser extent Beatles (Revolver), Hawkwind following a bit later.  It is not exclusive, but they are one of the most significant influences on a vast majority of bands in these genres.  And this is where I return to neo prog and Genesis.  I am quite familiar with Marillion, IQ and Twelfth Night, three of the most important neo prog bands.  None of these bands would count only Genesis as their source material.  Twelfth Night actually have a bit of NWOBHM (which can also be heard in Marillion’s Garden Party track) going on.  Marillion and IQ are both also influenced by Rush.  Pink Floyd also rears its ugly head again when it comes to Marillion and not just in the form of Gilmour leads.  The riffs of Brick in the Wall are evoked when guitar takes over in Assassing.  So the claim that each and every neo prog band is just a Genesis clone is mostly a figment of the fertile imagination of Genesis fanatics and little more. One Grendel does not a Genesis clone make.

 

Again, that was just one example with respect to Marillion. So don’t rush to pretend you’ve got to just refute that to negate the argument.  I cannot and will not spend time enumerating each and every such instance, so do not insult my intelligence.  As it is you who wish to claim that Floyd ‘s influence is not so significant, going against conventional wisdom which holds that Floyd is one of the most influential rock bands of all times, it is really up to you to explain why.  And if you don’t have any interest in doing so, that is your choice.  But in that case do remember that when you point fingers at people saying they only hear what they want to hear, three of your own point right back at you.  Such claims are neither very convincing nor very pleasant.  As far as I am concerned, Floyd's influence on music as a whole is far deeper than that of any prog rock band save Kraftwerk.  Um, Miles Davis isn't really a prog ROCK artist but yeah, him too.  And I would go so far as to state that only prog rock fans could possibly believe that is not the case.