Bands/Albums/Songs Pronunciation
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Topic: Bands/Albums/Songs Pronunciation
Posted By: ebil0505
Subject: Bands/Albums/Songs Pronunciation
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 12:21
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I doubt we are all pronouncing everything the same way. For example, is Phideaux pronounced like "Fido"? What about Tago Mago? Popol Vuh? Nemrud? Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré? Arubaluba? Obviously foreign languages will be a big factor, but what are some Bands/Albums/Songs with unusual (and by unusual I mean unusual for you) spelling and how do YOU pronounce them? I'm just curious  ------------- "I like to think oysters transcend national barriers." - Roger Waters |
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 12:25
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Haken. I've always pronounced this as Hockin' but recently found out they are "Haken like bacon". ------------- 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 12:26
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Me: Phideaux - like Fido as in dog Tago Mago - with a soft "ah" sound both times Popol Vuh - Pope+Uhl+Voo Nemrud - I've never said this word Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré - Eminem's Great Arubaluba - Ah-Rooo-Bah-Looo-Buh ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 12:28
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I always pronounced "Present" the American way as in Birthday Present, but found out it's really pronounced like an American pretending to be French would say it. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 12:33
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HolyMoly wrote:Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 12:40
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Igra Staklienih Perli - I pronounce 'Eegra Staklienee Perlee'; Neuschwanstein - I pronounce 'Neuskvanstein', perhaps this is more or less the correct spelling, thanks to some notion of German language pronunciation. Ines Fuchs - Is this band pronounced 'Ines f**ks'  nevertheless?
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 14:36
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I used to pronounce croissant as French bagel. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 14:39
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Can anybody tell me how is Pekka Pohjola pronounced? Is the "j" spelled like in English or like in Spanish? ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 14:39
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"Fido" is the correct pronunciation, though I always have to resist the urge to say "Fee-doo" ------------- Matt |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 14:40
The "u" in Fuchs is like a double o in English. I would spell it "Foox" Neuschwanstein is quite correct: Noyyshvanstein should be closer to German (eu=oyy). I have never heard the other, but I think you have written its phonetic perfectly
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 14:47
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Tago Mago I've always pronounced as "tay-go may-go", though I recently heard it pronounced "tah-go mah-go". There is a correct pronunciation, since the album is named after the Illa de Tagomago, but I don't know if it is one, the other, or neither.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 15:19
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How do you pronounce Terje Rypdal? I've always been lazy and just pronounced it in a way I'm sure is wrong, but I'd like to get in the habit of saying it correctly. (Norwegian guitarist) ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Permy
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 15:56
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Terje = Terry (no) Terje = Terr - YEAH (yes!) Pohjola = Poe - yeh - luh |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 16:14
I say Phideaux with a French pronunciation.  |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 16:33
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Interesting thread. I naturally thought PHIDEAUX is like the dog Fido. Nebelnest - is it 'nee-bell-nest' or 'nebbel-nest' ?? Tago Mago always went like Taygo-Maygo (I once heard this 'tripper' at a record fair call this Tango Mango....) Ummagumma - as it looks or Ooh-ma Goo-ma ?? Mason pronounces it as the latter ...... Haken - like bacon  Yes should be read as Chris Squire enterprises...... Dungen - I believe this to be Doon-yen - but more often than not as Dungeon Hidria Spacefolk - is it Hid-ri-ah or Hy-dri-ah ?? Anglagard I believe to sound like Eng-le-gord ?? I'm sure we all pronounce foreign titles/bands quite differently too. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 16:42
The "j" is actually pronounced like in Italian (as in "io"). The "h" is voiced, but otherwise the name is pronounced as it would be if the name was Italian - i.e. phonetically. |
Posted By: Rivertree
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 16:47
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Ines F**ks is funny - 'Foox' is quite right I'm not familiar with phonetics however ... Phideaux - I always said something like 'Feedow' ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Rivertree" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Permy
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 17:47
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IGRA STAKLIENIH PERLI I'm going to make an educated guess since Yugoslavian has many words similar to Russian. I haven't looked it up , but would appear to mean 100-year pearl game/play. Igg - rah (as in the god Ra) stoll- yet- knee pear-lee |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 18:16
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Neal Morse = Nay-all More-say ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 18:25
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https://encenathrakh.bandcamp.com/releases
I have no idea how to pronounce these songs. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 19:55
You be an Englishman, right? Sir Winston Churchill said something to the effect of "Englishmen have the right to pronounce them foreign names the way they bloody please" (I think this applies to spelling as well, but can't be sure). |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 19:57
Touché. Way to go :)
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 20:15
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 20:48
IGRA STAKLENIH PERLI should be read as it is written. That's the same with all others Yougoslav bands who are already in Archives (also Bijelo Dugme with that *j* which is *y* in English). All that thing is actually based on the teachings of the German grammarian & philologist Johnn Christop Adelung (1732 – 1806), later taken over by the Serbian language reformer Vuk Karadžić (1787 – 1864) in favor to make our language much easier to learn than the Church-Slavonic language. Johnn Christop Addelung was believed that the orthography of the written language should match that of the spoken language, as he said, "write as you speak and read as it is written." So I have no problem with pronunciation of e.g. Tago Mago, lol. p.s. IGRA STAKLENIH PERLI, not STAKLIENIH. Actually the band took the name of Hermann Hesse's novel The Glass Bead Game.
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 21:13
Interesting! My guess would have been that perli is/are pearl(s) rather than beads. Out of curiosity, does the Serbian language use a Turkish word for pearls (something like inchi/enje)? Sorry for off-topicking
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 21:36
This may be, because we use a lot of Turkish words.
The territory of today's Serbia were hundreds of years , from the time of the fall of Medieval Serbia in fifteenth century to the nineteenth century when the National Revolution started, a part of the Ottoman Empire. So we and the Turks not only use similar and the same words but we are also very close in our national cuisines, mentality .. Ottoman Empire was a "melting pot" actually. |
Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 09:00
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For a while, I thought Haken rhymed with "kraken", but it actually rhymes with "bacon". |
Posted By: Permy
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 09:21
Shi-que, Foox & Fuhrr- OY -ling then? |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:18
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Triumvirat-pronounced in English-Try-um-vi-rat, but in German-Try-oom-veer-ah. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:31
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My favorite musician's last name, Koellen, has it's different pronounciations in english -with the English spelling it is pretty obvious-Koe-len in German, with the umlaut, it is pronounced-Kew-len but I once met a fellow from Hannover, and he pronounced it Kull-en |
Posted By: Permy
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:35
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Yooour-gen .... EJWUUSL WESSAHQQAN WEIDORJE QOPH "KALEJDOSKOPISKA AKTIVITETER" Doubtless pronounced as written, nay? |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:37
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The band Wallenstein, in English, Wall-en-styne, but in German, Vall-en-shtyne |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:39
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Posted By: Permy
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:59
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I have a comp of Greenland rock bands : AASIVIK '79 "QUANGATTARSA QUANGATTARSARTIGUT" iF YOU HAD YOUR OWN RADIO PROG SHOW AND PRONOUNCED THE ABOVE ON THE AIR, i DOUBT THERE WOULD BE ANYONE PHONING IN TO CORRECT YOU. nOW, iTALIAN PROG - THAT WOULD ANOTHER STORY. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 11:15
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 11:32
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okey for you Steven Terje is pronounced straight forward, ter-je /tær-gje/ and Rypdal, Ryypdal /Ryyyp-daal/ i say hAken when i pronounced Haken, pressure is on the A, -------------  
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 11:34
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ok i toss a bone, Kebenikaise. -------------
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 13:27
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I wanted to open this thread too about a year ago but never did. It is fine when I'm the only one pronounciating the band's names but when I did a few radio shows that's when this matter really bugged me. Of course the majority of bands I need help with are mostly Italian bands, I'll come back later with a bunch of names. How about OOIOO for starters? |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 13:28
Four (in binary)  ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 13:43
Ah, I know this one: "what's round in its end and high in its middle? OHIO!" .... Oh, sorry, I mistook with the joke thread... |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 13:48
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Does anybody know the Dutch 35007? ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 14:09
oh yeah I still remember that.
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 15:28
It's meant to be "loose" spelt backwards and with numbers. I tend to just read out the name when talking about them, "Thirty-Five Zero Zero Seven" the way I do it. One could instead say "Double-Oh Seven" and "Three Five", of course, or use the Dutch names for the numbers.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 16:19
Just wondering, if "Koellen" is pronounced "Keu-len", then if there was a german name "Keullen" it should be pronounced "Koy-len". ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 16:26
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 16:48
Ter as in terrible, je as in yep, Ryp as in food (in the genteel Piedmont English) or due/lieu (in less couth dialects
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 17:20
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 17:53
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[QUOTE=Tom Ozric] 58008618 (Looks better with a calculator......)[/QUOTE] True; unless you are a derrière person, in which case it wouldn't matter
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 19:15
thanks.------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 19:18
They are cool though, I need to pull them out again. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 22:33
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 02:28
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Here are a few I'm not 100% sure about... Amon Duul II (is it like the word duel?) Bacamarte (just reading it like it is or is the last e silent?) Fruupp ( does it rhymes with cup?) Gevende ( what's up with this Turkish band?) Machiavel (I'm not sure...) Rhun ( Run or Roon?) Sloche (?) cabezas de cera (is it sera?) crucis (kra - sis?) ma banlieue flasque (?) |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 03:20
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Good ones Sagi. I thing it's Dool (I've always referred to it like this) I'd say Sera (as opposed to Chera) Slow-ssh ?? FRUUPP - I don't know - perhaps more like Froop ?? Mack-e-ay-vel?? Kroo-sis |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 04:06
Depends on the variant of Portuguese you're using. I say it the European way, since it's still a common usage word (although dwindling), but since the band is from Brazil, it should be pronounced bah-cah-mart-gee(with the j sound).
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 05:47
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^Our pronounce in Brasil: Bacamarte - 'Ba-ca-mar-tchee'. All the letters 'a' being pronounced like in the english bar, the accent put in the third syllable. 'Bacamarte' is not anymore a common usage word here too, but I was told that perhaps until the seventies in my city it was used also as a slang that meant 'old rubbish'. And this band is 'carioca'(from Rio), so maybe the slang usage is what the band wanted to mean, as they formed in 1974, in spite of the album 'Depois do Fim' being released only in 1983. Cabezas de cera: 1) 'ca-be-thas de the-ra' in Spain; 2) 'ca-be-ssas de sse-ra' in South and Central America; 3) All the letters 'a' being pronounced like in the english word 'bar'. Machiavel - 'Ma-kee-a-vel', again the letter 'a' being pronounced like in the english 'bar'. ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 08:57
To my ear, Bacamarte sounded like bəkəmÁhchi (ə =schwa, like in above or pizza), while the stressed 'a' is a lot more open. That said, the person who I learned this from might have been an ignorant favelado, traveling incognito  Also importantly: can someone explain what the cover art is supposed to symbolize ? I am especially intrigued by the front cover image, with a pregnant cavegirl, clutching her tummy and a caveman, chiseling Roman numerals onto what looks like the Ten Commandments tablets.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 10:16
| What are Sunn 0))) actually called? I mean if you went into a shop and said "Have you got the new CD by Scott Walker and..."? |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 10:28
It's just pronounced Sun. They named themselves after Sunn amplifiers, and the O))) part is meant to mimic the amp company's logo. ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 10:34
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Thank you guys! Sunn O))) is like the amplifier brand you just say sun, the O))) is just a symbol. Oh Zappaholic you ninjad me!
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 11:32
Wouldn't Änglagård be pronounced as Ang (as in angle) - la - gore (as in Al Gore)? I could imagine the final "d" falls away. But you Swedish proggers, could you tell this non-Scandinavian if I'm right?
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 11:34
My guess is Tear - yeh Rip - doll (as music critic Bradley Smith once stated) |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 11:40
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Good idea for a thread. Kudos.
Phideaux - fee-DOH
Tago Mago - TUH-goh MUH-goh Popol Vuh - POH-pohl VYUH (as the narrator in Krautrock: The Rebirth of Germany pronounced it) Nemrud - No clue. NEHM-ruhd ? Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré - (It's Kobaian, for chrissakes.)Arubaluba - uh-rooh-buh-LOOH-buh. |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 11:44
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Does anyone know how to properly pronounce any of Koenjihyakkei's song titles? ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 11:47
That's what I thought, because ä = æ, and I did learn in our local IKEA that Hej Då = Hey, Daw(g). And then I found this place on the Net, where Änglagård is pronounced like "Ayn'lagawd". What on Earth is going on. http://www.forvo.com/word/änglagård/
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 23 2014 at 14:44
Oh! Well, yes, that must be it, then. I'll practice before the mirror.
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Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: November 26 2014 at 20:32
I find this to be a helpful guide: ------------- And if you can't be with the prog you love, honey, love the prog you're with. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 04:25
Even better
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Posted By: TheH
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 14:01
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Usefull side for German pronunciation: Neuschwanstein http://de.forvo.com/word/neuschwanstein/" rel="nofollow - http://de.forvo.com/word/neuschwanstein/ Fuchs http://de.forvo.com/search/Fuchs/" rel="nofollow - http://de.forvo.com/search/Fuchs/
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 02:54
| Found out how to pronounce "Spirogyra" (looking for definitions helps): spīrəˈjīrə |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 04:30
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How about Negurã Bunget? ------------- 
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Posted By: vtudeband
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:22
| Our bands name is Verisimilitude [ver-uh-si-mil-i-tood]. We came up with Vtude as a shorting because no one could pronounce it properly. One of our songs is called Panazatazum. We pronounce it [puh-na-zuh-ta-zum] Our friend made up the word, meaning to have a stoner freak out, or intense paranoia. Heres a link to the song..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HduqE6ctiuE |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 09:51
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Sometimes, when I'm feeling urbane, I pronounce Yes as Oui. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 10:06
| ^ that's almost too much sophistication |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 13:33
Thanks Mr.TheH! ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |