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VDGG A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers guitar&bass?

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Topic: VDGG A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers guitar&bass?
Posted By: proger
Subject: VDGG A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers guitar&bass?
Date Posted: December 08 2014 at 06:54
who is in charge of that?
dousent sound like hammill's work... or maybe yes?


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Posted By: Davesax1965
Date Posted: December 08 2014 at 07:11
????????
It was a collaborative effort by the band which grew and grew and grew......


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 08 2014 at 07:16
Banton's in charge of the bass and bass pedals, like on every other early Van Damme release. He and Peter shared guitar credits on the album, but I'm not entirely sure who played what.

LOL
How could I forget.. Monsieur Fripp guests on Pawn Hearts as wellWink


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Posted By: proger
Date Posted: December 08 2014 at 07:19
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Banton's in charge of the bass and bass pedals, like on every other early Van Damme release. He and Peter shared guitar credits on the album, but I'm not entirely sure who played what.

LOL
How could I forget.. Monsieur Fripp guests on Pawn Hearts as wellWink

you got it!


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 08 2014 at 16:54
Is there a notion of a thread here? Spreak Engrish, troupe!


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 08 2014 at 17:26
Guitar?

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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: December 09 2014 at 10:33
Actually, Hammill plays all the acoustic guitar, Banton plays all the bass.  Fripp presumably plays all the electric guitar.


Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: December 09 2014 at 10:38
To be more precise about Fripp on Lighthouse Keepers, there is this from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fripp" rel="nofollow - "Robert Fripp provided a cameo appearance on electric guitar, which can be heard from 8:10-10:20 into the song and near the end of the song. (Fripp also had a cameo on Pawn Hearts track "Man-Erg".)"


Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: December 09 2014 at 19:37
Fripp is on there, but in the case of the end of "Lighthouse Keepers", I think that's just Banton going nuts on the organ.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 05:34
Just to be a little more precise about the Fripp Van Der Graf thing:
 
 On : 1970 H to He who.......
The Emperor in his War-Room
                  I. The Emperor
                  II. The Room
 
On 1971 Pawn Hearts
                Theme One    
                Lemmings (including Cog)
                Man-Erg
                A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers:
                  Eyewitness
                  Pictures/Lighthouse
                  Eyewitness
                  S.H.M.
                  Presence of the Night
                  Kosmos Tours
                  (Custard's) Last Stand
                  The Clot Thickens
                  Land's End (Sineline)
                  We go now
On Peter Hammill's 1972 Fool's Mate  
                Imperial Zeppelin
                Sunshine
                Child
                Viking
                The Birds
                I Once Wrote Some Poems

 
And Hammill appears on a number of tracks on Fripps : Exposure (1979)





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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 09:43
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

And Hammill appears on a number of tracks on Fripps : Exposure (1979)

Specifically on Disengage, Chicago, & I may not have had enough of me but I've had enough of you - my 3 fave songs on Exposure BTW Wink


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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 11:43
Disengage! What a performance by Mister Hammill!!

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 12:59
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Disengage! What a performance by Mister Hammill!!

Agreed...it's my fave Hammill performance of all time.  It's interesting though that the original vinyl version is a different vocal take than the CD version.  I was so disappointed when the CD version came out and PH's was more restrained than the original.  I've never been able to figure out why...perhaps the master tapes had a problem with the vocal track or something...anyone know the story?

"And I'm trying hard not to shriek...Disengage!"


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 15:10
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Disengage! What a performance by Mister Hammill!!


Agreed...it's my fave Hammill performance of all time. It's interesting though that the original vinyl version is a different vocal take than the CD version. I was so disappointed when the CD version came out and PH's was more restrained than the original. I've never been able to figure out why...perhaps the master tapes had a problem with the vocal track or something...anyone know the story?

"And I'm trying hard not to shriek...Disengage!"

You mean you haven't heard the remaster from several years passed that had both versions on it. And yes, Disengage is my favorite Hammill performance too.


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 16:33
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Disengage! What a performance by Mister Hammill!!


Agreed...it's my fave Hammill performance of all time.  It's interesting though that the original vinyl version is a different vocal take than the CD version.  I was so disappointed when the CD version came out and PH's was more restrained than the original.  I've never been able to figure out why...perhaps the master tapes had a problem with the vocal track or something...anyone know the story?

"And I'm trying hard not to shriek...Disengage!"

You mean you haven't heard the remaster from several years passed that had both versions on it. And yes, Disengage is my favorite Hammill performance too.

No, wasn't aware of that.  I bought Exposure soon after it was available on CD so I just recorded the vinyl version of Disengage to mp3 and made my own CD with the original Disengage in place of the newer one Wink

Was there any explanation in sleeve notes or anything why it was re-recorded? 


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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 12 2014 at 17:11
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Disengage! What a performance by Mister Hammill!!


Agreed...it's my fave Hammill performance of all time. It's interesting though that the original vinyl version is a different vocal take than the CD version. I was so disappointed when the CD version came out and PH's was more restrained than the original. I've never been able to figure out why...perhaps the master tapes had a problem with the vocal track or something...anyone know the story?

"And I'm trying hard not to shriek...Disengage!"

You mean you haven't heard the remaster from several years passed that had both versions on it. And yes, Disengage is my favorite Hammill performance too.


No, wasn't aware of that. I bought Exposure soon after it was available on CD so I just recorded the vinyl version of Disengage to mp3 and made my own CD with the original Disengage in place of the newer one Wink

Was there any explanation in sleeve notes or anything why it was re-recorded?

Well, going off of memory, I don't recall Fripp reminiscing in the liner notes about why alternate versions of Disengage and Chicago were released on the '83 CD version. I can't even remember what year the remaster of Disengage came out. I will say that it is splendid to have and is easily attainable off of Amazon. That's because I had to re-purchase it from there in a soft paper jacket after some scumbag contractor went through the CD storage boxes in my garage and ripped off the one in a plastic jewel case that I'd originally bought at Tower Records. Oh yeah, Daryl Hall covers a song(s) originally sung by someone else back in '79. What I do know is that in the liner notes for the paper jacket remaster of Disengage, some offensive words in Urban Landscape are deleted. I have a feeling at least one or two good-hearted souls are going to correct me in this thread in the near future, and I'm grateful.



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